Vibes

Originally posted by DrEll:
It's not just SB fatigue. It's this regime fatigue. And I think the players are feeling it too. Team has become too stale. Same old concepts. Same old mistakes. Same old coaching. Same old results.

the fire isn't there anymore. this is exactly what happened to Reid's Eagles. The product just became boring because it was repetitive. And the end result was always coming up short.

unless this team can dig deep and pull off some type of miracle, we're witnessing the beginning of the end of this god awful era of failure…

This is honestly why.. I believe we should have started the rebuild or re-tooling of this roster during the off season. After so many years the players will begin to tune you out.

The league has caught up.
You can't fail on so many first rounders without costing depth.
Lack of depth shows out when all it takes is one or two missteps due to underprepared players and VIBE.
Williams, Bosa, Aiyuk, Samuel are the hold out result of poor VIBE.
Defense wins games and that phase has had too many good coaches leave. VIBE decreased.
ST saves you from losing and it is a neglected phase due to arrogance of the offensive minded HC. RAH RAH crud from coaches does not help this phase. But trusting and developing them properly does. One accidental fake in the past how many years?
As good as Purdy is, he cannot win it by himself with his VIBE while still developing and his offense is injured and outclassed.

These guys are just tired. Multiple seasons of 16+ games are wearing them down.

They don't seem to care about a Super Bowl this year. That last SB loss took a lot out of them.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
These guys are just tired. Multiple seasons of 16+ games are wearing them down.

They don't seem to care about a Super Bowl this year. That last SB loss took a lot out of them.

I guess you could be right. In the past there was always a name they liked to call themselves to rally for their next tilt at the big one

Any of you catch what Demo said after the Rams game?

I don't want to misquote or misspeak, but he essentially said that the Team can't finish.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
If we knew CMC and greenlaw were coming back I'd feel a lot better, but it sounds like even that can't be counted on.
Hargrave going down stinks, but the lack of DL depth makes it even worse
D looks lost out there and no creativity or fire for the 2nd year in a row and 3rd CB still looks to be an issue
ST still looks like a liability
outside of Puni, have gotten nothing from a draft class we all felt good about and thought could make some early contributions. To compound that this last draft seemed like prime opportunity to get OT and C into the pipeline, but adressed neither and watching some of these guys flourish on other teams is a tough pill to swallow.
2 star players that always seem to be dinged up with soft tissue issues are already dinged up and missing time with soft tissue issues
This was also supposed ti be the soft part of the schedule that allowed them to get right and still pad their record.
Vibe felt off in TC and seems just downright bad now

"To compound that this last draft seemed like prime opportunity to get OT and C into the pipeline, but adressed neither and watching some of these guys flourish on other teams is a tough pill to swallow."

Indeed. Very tough pill to swallow. Doesn't help that both Brendel and Mckivitz have the #'s to backup how awful they are.

This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

not sure where to post this, here are some old school vibes

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

I fear we may have missed our best opportunity of Winning a super bowl under Kyle, but at least we have a GREAT Qb, that alone should keep this team competitive for quite sometime.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

Lose in the SB or not make the playoffs. I'll always choose the latter. I have a feeling the millennials would rather 'enjoy the ride' even if it means losing in the big game.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

Lose in the SB or not make the playoffs. I'll always choose the latter. I have a feeling the millennials would rather 'enjoy the ride' even if it means losing in the big game.

You can't win the SB without doing well in the playoffs. So you're saying it's better to not get to the SB at all if you don't win. That makes no sense at all. Of course everyone would rather they win but most want them to get there.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

Lose in the SB or not make the playoffs. I'll always choose the latter. I have a feeling the millennials would rather 'enjoy the ride' even if it means losing in the big game.

I'm a millennial. I would gladly miss the playoffs, nobody will remember a bad season, but losing a Super Bowl haunts forever.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This team may be nearing the end as currently constructed but I'd hardly call the last few seasons a failure. 30 teams in the league would love to fail like that. Saying they failed because they couldn't beat the Chiefs led by one of the best coaches and the best QB is stupid. The Patriots lost several SBs in addition to the one's they won. The Niners in the 80s lost playoff games. Yes they were 5 for 5 in the SB but the AFC was by far the weaker conference in those years. Now it's reversed.

Lose in the SB or not make the playoffs. I'll always choose the latter. I have a feeling the millennials would rather 'enjoy the ride' even if it means losing in the big game.

You can't win the SB without doing well in the playoffs. So you're saying it's better to not get to the SB at all if you don't win. That makes no sense at all. Of course everyone would rather they win but most want them to get there.

Ask any Buffalo Bills fan what they think about those 4 SB appearances in the 90s. I know plenty. I live in NY. Haven't heard one yet tell me they enjoyed the ride, season(s) were great, missed that bygone era.

Pretty much all of them consider it an afterthought, a dark age that amounted to nothing but bad memories and a sour taste in their mouth.

Compare that to this current fanbase that celebrates Kyle's achievements of getting us to the Super Bowl. It's a lame take….

Originally posted by DrEll:
Ask any Buffalo Bills fan what they think about those 4 SB appearances in the 90s. I know plenty. I live in NY. Haven't heard one yet tell me they enjoyed the ride, season(s) were great, missed that bygone era.

Pretty much all of them consider it an afterthought, a dark age that amounted to nothing but bad memories and a sour taste in their mouth.

Compare that to this current fanbase that celebrates Kyle's achievements of getting us to the Super Bowl. It's a lame take….

Absolutely untrue. You know why? Because they lived through real dark ages in the 00's and 10's.

Current Vibe? I think we miss the playoffs this year.