GO GET SALEH

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Funny how most people here hated this dude and glad he was gone... now hanging on his nuts lol
Demeco is probably the only one who didnt get as much hate

We have opposing recollections, I remember people fretting over whether Demeco could continue the success Saleh had demonstrated.

YEeeeeeeeeeeeS!
Bring him back anyway you can!
I would really have no issues with replacing him as D.C. so he can figure it out by playoffs!

Originally posted by boast:

As for the question 49ers fans are asking: Robert Saleh plans to regroup, go on vacation with his family and prepare for the next hiring cycle, when he should be in demand as a defensive coordinator. He has no plans to join anyone's staff during the 2024 season, should an…

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) October 8, 2024

Fine then:p

Originally posted by fropwns:
Yeah, I said it. And I will take the heat for it. We were better defensively with him. He should never have left, but I get why he did. At min, we need to bring him as an advisor to groom him to return to the DC position.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
kinda....

Most of those contracts are stipulated that you MUST seek employment....yes the old team pays you, but you must find work.....you still get any guaranteed money..period....but the old team only pays the money that keeps you "whole". So if you were going to get 1m a season, but the new team will only pay you 500k a season, the old team is only on the hook for the missing 500k.

i don't believe this is the case this isn't unemployment. you don't have to seek anything. who would even enforce the must seek employment aspect? the club that canned you? can you give some evidence here? these are guaranteed contracts. you don't have to seek anything. they have to pay you to go away if you have money left on the deal.

Guarantees in coaching contracts are offset guarantees, meaning the firing team's financial liability is reduced if and when the coach secures work and is paid by another team during the term of the contract. While the firing team has an obligation to pay off the contract, the fired coach has a duty to mitigate,meaning he has an obligation to seek and find a similar coaching position with another team (that can be a college team as well). In other words, the fired coach cannot simply sit and collect his paycheck; he has to mitigate and try to find another job, with the payments from the new job offsetting the amount owed from the firing team.

Has that always been a thing? I don't know....is that a thing today? I don't know.....does that contract mitigation thing apply to Salah? I don't know....

I can only say that the few time I have ever paid attention to coaches contract....that seems to be the case..... you get paid whatever it was you were going to get paid, but whatever the new team is paying you gives the old team a break on the money THEY have to pay you.

I forget what coach got sued for NOT seeking employment elsewhere...but I remember it happened....so at least in that one random case that I can't provide anything other than a vague reference too...he ended up in court for not getting a job.

whoops forgot to add the source for the bolded...it might help explain the context of the bolded

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/19/business-of-football-end-of-season-coaches-fired

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Funny how most people here hated this dude and glad he was gone... now hanging on his nuts lol
Demeco is probably the only one who didnt get as much hate

We have opposing recollections, I remember people fretting over whether Demeco could continue the success Saleh had demonstrated.

I don't know who was saying that but I thought a great fit and the firing up the troops was a good thing and is missed.

He will probably take a vacation, he is rich. His kids already in school but ads to not piss off our current DC call him an advisor. Bring him.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
Guarantees in coaching contracts are offset guarantees, meaning the firing team's financial liability is reduced if and when the coach secures work and is paid by another team during the term of the contract. While the firing team has an obligation to pay off the contract, the fired coach has a duty to mitigate,meaning he has an obligation to seek and find a similar coaching position with another team (that can be a college team as well). In other words, the fired coach cannot simply sit and collect his paycheck; he has to mitigate and try to find another job, with the payments from the new job offsetting the amount owed from the firing team.

Has that always been a thing? I don't know....is that a thing today? I don't know.....does that contract mitigation thing apply to Salah? I don't know....

I can only say that the few time I have ever paid attention to coaches contract....that seems to be the case..... you get paid whatever it was you were going to get paid, but whatever the new team is paying you gives the old team a break on the money THEY have to pay you.

I forget what coach got sued for NOT seeking employment elsewhere...but I remember it happened....so at least in that one random case that I can't provide anything other than a vague reference too...he ended up in court for not getting a job.

that's interesting. as mentioned, it would be very onerous to try and prove mitigation. so while this may be the letter of it, in practical reality, it would be hard to enforce. if we look at Saleh, Silver reports he's gonna take time off, recharge, vacation. doesn't sound a lot like he's performing any duty to mitigate at least for the rest of the year.

yeah amigo.....bag of snake onerous...

I am sure no team wants to be "that guy" who is penny pinching their tail off over a "year" of money. Reputation of a front office, in the long run...is probably worth wayyyyyy more than whatever a mid-season coaching pick up is going to get paid.

Someone said he was paid 5m this year and next. What does a mid-season coaching pickup get paid 300k? 400k?..is saving a couple 100 thousand going to do anything for the Jets? Nothing....meanwhile giving Saleh a hard time and hassling him on the other hand.... What would that do to a looser organization that is trying to recruit a talented coach to a depleted roster?

There is no way, as a looser franchise I would scare off a potential great coaching pick up by screwing with the last coach over a couple hundred thousand dollars when I am on the hook for 5m anyway....

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Has a HC who's been fired at the beginning of a season gone on and coached elsewhere the same yr?

he's got another yr left on his deal that NY owes him if he coaches or not.

Does he still get that money if he is hired by another team this year? Not sure if he forfeits it or if it just adds onto any other salary he makes.

I think they still get the money. I remember that Chip Kelly was getting paid from 3 places when he was with the 49ers. Oregon and Philly still owed him money. It's not like alimony where it goes away if you get married again. It's more like child support.

Lol
Great analogy

Ok not to start anything political but two days after he wears a patch in support of Lebanon he gets canned? Not that he's been doing a great job but its sooooooo rare to get fired this early In The NFL.

Small hats influence???

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
Ok not to start anything political but two days after he wears a patch in support of Lebanon he gets canned? Not that he's been doing a great job but its sooooooo rare to get fired this early In The NFL.

Small hats influence???

who cares about the patch? let's get real. everyone knew he was Lebanese. that was no secret. we knew it when he was here in SF. so what's the play, you tell me since you brought it up. they hired him knowing it, they paid him millions knowing it, and they fired him for it? same ownership all the way thru. does it make any sense? the whole league is wearing stickers. Chase Brown is Canadian he has a maple leaf. if he gets benched, it has zero to do with the maple leaf. unless you want to be in conspiracy land.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Funny how most people here hated this dude and glad he was gone... now hanging on his nuts lol
Demeco is probably the only one who didnt get as much hate

We have opposing recollections, I remember people fretting over whether Demeco could continue the success Saleh had demonstrated.

Same, don't know what this dude talking about.

Saleh! Saleh! Saleh!...

Maybe next year if the issues with Sorensen continue.

We need Salad back. We need to tell Sorenson sorry son you're not it