2025 Roster: Needs & Financially Realistic Moves

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Good post and agree. I don't think we'll get rid of Samuel, but Hargrave is a no brainer. I think Greenlaw will look to get LB #1 money, and we won't be able to afford it.

A lot also depends on who's our DC next week. Floyd and Matos offer cap savings as a June 1st cut, so we could see a seismic reset depending on DC and scheme decisions.

I think 2026 offseason is when Lynch will push Kyle to do a soft reset on the offensive side. Purdy + CMC + Samuel + Aiyuk + Kittle + Williams will likely account for more than 2/3 of the salaries. 4 are "aging" vet status relative to their age and position, which is not good for cap health.

Freudian slip?

Got a 2 month old at home. I'm lucky if I'm somewhat coherent in life.

Assuming we don't right the ship for 2024 we will have a better draft slot than 31, but that point may belong in the silver linings thread.

We need to re-tool, and that would put us in position to grab an impact player or players, if we played our cards right.

The drop off after Mason goes off the field is huge. I expect two new RBs in the draft. Taylor and Guerrendo aren't it

Seems like Kyle has been trying to find a replacement for Juice for a couple years, would not shock me if it happened this year

I have a feeling we may not keep Juice much longer. We should probably try to get cheaper there, or stop using a fullback altogether. So, as far as salary casualty guys, I'm definitely looking at Juice, Hargrave, Deebo

As far as guys that definitely need to be replaced for performance or simple lack of value right now, I'd say the following:

WR Ronnie Bell
OL Jake Brendel
OL Spencer Burford
OL Ben Bartch
OL Nick Zakelj
OT Colton McKivitz
S JAyir Brown
LB Campbell
LB Winters
LB Graham
LB Flannigan Fowles
CB Isaac Yiadom
DE Robert Beal

Brendel and McKivitz can stay as backups. The rest I want gone for good.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I have a feeling we may not keep Juice much longer. We should probably try to get cheaper there, or stop using a fullback altogether. So, as far as salary casualty guys, I'm definitely looking at Juice, Hargrave, Deebo

As far as guys that definitely need to be replaced for performance or simple lack of value right now, I'd say the following:

WR Ronnie Bell
OL Jake Brendel
OL Spencer Burford
OL Ben Bartch
OL Nick Zakelj
OT Colton McKivitz
S JAyir Brown
LB Campbell
LB Winters
LB Graham
LB Flannigan Fowles
CB Isaac Yiadom
DE Robert Beal

Brendel and McKivitz can stay as backups. The rest I want gone for good.

I think Kyle will replace Juice with more of an H-Back/move TE

I'd rather lose out at this point since we have no chance at a Super Bowl this year. Just get a better pick and trade down to load up on the assets we need to move forward with the next young core on this team.

We need three new OL, another top separator at WR, a future TE1, two more starting caliber LB, a star FS, a star DT, and another top DE.

That's 10 guys. We should have 9 picks. Maybe we can trade a player for something.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

I'd rather lose out at this point since we have no chance at a Super Bowl this year. Just get a better pick and trade down to load up on the assets we need to move forward with the next young core on this team.

We need three new OL, another top separator at WR, a future TE1, two more starting caliber LB, a star FS, a star DT, and another top DE.

That's 10 guys. We should have 9 picks. Maybe we can trade a player for something.

We'll have cash for free agency. Paraag can get creative with the Purdy contract with void years to make it manageable.

McKivitz should be cut immediately

Originally posted by jreff22:
McKivitz should be cut immediately

theres nobody to replace him

Get center + both LT/RT in draft AND in FA.
Draft future TE who will eventually replace Kittle.
We need more help on Edge, LB and Safety. Lose DC and ST coach TONIGHT. Leave them both in GB!!

Originally posted by FaTaL:

Originally posted by jreff22:
McKivitz should be cut immediately

theres nobody to replace him

Will get the same results

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I have a feeling we may not keep Juice much longer. We should probably try to get cheaper there, or stop using a fullback altogether. So, as far as salary casualty guys, I'm definitely looking at Juice, Hargrave, Deebo

As far as guys that definitely need to be replaced for performance or simple lack of value right now, I'd say the following:

WR Ronnie Bell
OL Jake Brendel
OL Spencer Burford
OL Ben Bartch
OL Nick Zakelj
OT Colton McKivitz
S JAyir Brown
LB Campbell
LB Winters
LB Graham
LB Flannigan Fowles
CB Isaac Yiadom
DE Robert Beal

Brendel and McKivitz can stay as backups. The rest I want gone for good.

Juice is a total waste of cap space. He contributes very little. Everybody on your list can go

Originally posted by All22:
The drop off after Mason goes off the field is huge. I expect two new RBs in the draft. Taylor and Guerrendo aren't it

We can't burn more draft capital on RB's

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

I have a feeling we may not keep Juice much longer. We should probably try to get cheaper there, or stop using a fullback altogether. So, as far as salary casualty guys, I'm definitely looking at Juice, Hargrave, Deebo

As far as guys that definitely need to be replaced for performance or simple lack of value right now, I'd say the following:

WR Ronnie Bell
OL Jake Brendel
OL Spencer Burford
OL Ben Bartch
OL Nick Zakelj
OT Colton McKivitz
S JAyir Brown
LB Campbell
LB Winters
LB Graham
LB Flannigan Fowles
CB Isaac Yiadom
DE Robert Beal

Brendel and McKivitz can stay as backups. The rest I want gone for good.

Juice is a total waste of cap space. He contributes very little. Everybody on your list can go

I agree. He isn't worth keeping anymore.

The way we got dominated in the trenches in every facet on both sides of the ball speaks volumes.

People definitely seeing how much Bosa was propping us up now. And that Hargrave wasn't as bad as people think. I do think we can find a cheaper replacement for Hargrave in the draft but we might opt to make sure we know we have that guy before we cut ties. We don't save money unless we cut him post June 1 anyway.

As for OL, we obviously need Trent and Puni had a rough day, but he'll be fine going forward. Every other spot needs major help/upgrades.