Should we be sellers at trade deadline?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I don't think a 2nd would be too much for a legit CB. But that's just me.

from the acquiring teams perspective, they take on big contract, they get only 8-10 games, and they lose a pick which is a cheap 4 year contract player. also you have to acclimate the new guy mid game week during the year. that's hardly ideal.

Ward is best at man. He doesn't need to acclimate to s**t. Just follow the opposing teams best player. Also, acquiring team might have the cap space to extend him beyond this year, something we're not going to be able to do.

i would take a legit CB now, over an unknown player in the future.

If we had the cap space to keep Ward I would rather do that, but we don't.

Pass rush and CB are premier positions on defense. A 2nd rounder is not too much for a legit player at either of those two positions.

If you believe anything short of a SB is a failure, then they should be sellers. If it's about making the postseason and seing what happens, then they should be buyers.

Gotta rebuild the farm system with prospects or something?

Time for rebuilt. Shany just did 8 years rebuilt and we are going backwards. Stockpile draft picks. Get rid of this current front office. It's over.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Gotta rebuild the farm system with prospects or something?

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Ward is best at man. He doesn't need to acclimate to s**t. Just follow the opposing teams best player. Also, acquiring team might have the cap space to extend him beyond this year, something we're not going to be able to do.

i would take a legit CB now, over an unknown player in the future.

If we had the cap space to keep Ward I would rather do that, but we don't.

Pass rush and CB are premier positions on defense. A 2nd rounder is not too much for a legit player at either of those two positions.

You're not getting a 2nd for Ward, you likely won't even get a 3rd and it most likely would be a 4th or a 5th and change. Look at what the Eagles got for Reddick, a 3rd round pick, not in 2025, but in 2026.

For that amount, better to just keep him, especially if they beat Dallas next week. Let him walk in the offseason and take the comp pick.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Ward is best at man. He doesn't need to acclimate to s**t. Just follow the opposing teams best player. Also, acquiring team might have the cap space to extend him beyond this year, something we're not going to be able to do.

i would take a legit CB now, over an unknown player in the future.

If we had the cap space to keep Ward I would rather do that, but we don't.

Pass rush and CB are premier positions on defense. A 2nd rounder is not too much for a legit player at either of those two positions.

You're not getting a 2nd for Ward, you likely won't even get a 3rd and it most likely would be a 4th or a 5th and change. Look at what the Eagles got for Reddick, a 3rd round pick, not in 2025, but in 2026.

For that amount, better to just keep him, especially if they beat Dallas next week. Let him walk in the offseason and take the comp pick.

That's the best counter argument I've heard. A comp pick may be the best route.
I would like to mention, that we gave up a 3rd and 4th for an old Sanders, so you never know what a team is willing to part ways with.

Amari Cooper as a one year rental would've been friggin saaaaaweeeeet!!!!!

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
At some point, we need to be honest about the situation and put feelings aside.

Yes, let's be honest.

What do you honestly think the locker room reaction would be if Kyle/Lynch walked in and said "We're one game off first in the division, it's not even midseason, but we're going to start moving some of you on so we can build for next year."

That's why this thread is pretty pointless. We're not selling.

What you tell them is we believe in you Renardo Green to become the player we drafted you to be. We see great things in you. We believe you can hold down the spot opposite Lenoir.

To the rest of the team, get your head out your ass or your getting shipped too. Enough of capitulating to players and their feelings. That hasn't got us we're we are trying to go. Take a page out of Walsh and Belichick let players know the team is bigger than any player.

Knew you'd say that. Locker room would be lost in 5 seconds flat. Good luck telling a bunch of guys who believe they are part of a SB roster to just accept giving up.

Weird that you talk about capitulating to feelings when your own frustration/emotion is over riding logic.

Even weirder that you take a hard no nonsense approach while simultaneously waving the white flag.

It might sound good coming from a fan POV, but it wouldn't work in reality.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
At some point, we need to be honest about the situation and put feelings aside.

Yes, let's be honest.

What do you honestly think the locker room reaction would be if Kyle/Lynch walked in and said "We're one game off first in the division, it's not even midseason, but we're going to start moving some of you on so we can build for next year."

That's why this thread is pretty pointless. We're not selling.

What you tell them is we believe in you Renardo Green to become the player we drafted you to be. We see great things in you. We believe you can hold down the spot opposite Lenoir.

To the rest of the team, get your head out your ass or your getting shipped too. Enough of capitulating to players and their feelings. That hasn't got us we're we are trying to go. Take a page out of Walsh and Belichick let players know the team is bigger than any player.

Knew you'd say that. Locker room would be lost in 5 seconds flat. Good luck telling a bunch of guys who believe they are part of a SB roster to just accept giving up.

Weird that you talk about capitulating to feelings when your own frustration/emotion is over riding logic.

Even weirder that you take a hard no nonsense approach while simultaneously waving the white flag.

It might sound good coming from a fan POV, but it wouldn't work in reality.

You must think that this roster is soft, to think they will fall a part when a player or two get traded. The same team that stuck together when their QB "of the future" got dealt for a 4th, after spending 3 1st on the guy. Anyone is expendable after that. If you think, they would give up because a couple of players get traded says more about you and your way of thinking. Remember they are playing for paychecks and legacy. This isn't a HS team lol

Still think we're a SB roster? you still living in fantasy land. You think this team with all the injuries going on is going to win a SB lol Last year, they were healthy as can be and still couldnt do the job.

sounds like you don't have confidence in our young guys to step up. Just say that.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You're not getting a 2nd for Ward, you likely won't even get a 3rd and it most likely would be a 4th or a 5th and change. Look at what the Eagles got for Reddick, a 3rd round pick, not in 2025, but in 2026.

For that amount, better to just keep him, especially if they beat Dallas next week. Let him walk in the offseason and take the comp pick.

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
At some point, we need to be honest about the situation and put feelings aside.

Yes, let's be honest.

What do you honestly think the locker room reaction would be if Kyle/Lynch walked in and said "We're one game off first in the division, it's not even midseason, but we're going to start moving some of you on so we can build for next year."

That's why this thread is pretty pointless. We're not selling.

What you tell them is we believe in you Renardo Green to become the player we drafted you to be. We see great things in you. We believe you can hold down the spot opposite Lenoir.

To the rest of the team, get your head out your ass or your getting shipped too. Enough of capitulating to players and their feelings. That hasn't got us we're we are trying to go. Take a page out of Walsh and Belichick let players know the team is bigger than any player.

Knew you'd say that. Locker room would be lost in 5 seconds flat. Good luck telling a bunch of guys who believe they are part of a SB roster to just accept giving up.

Weird that you talk about capitulating to feelings when your own frustration/emotion is over riding logic.

Even weirder that you take a hard no nonsense approach while simultaneously waving the white flag.

It might sound good coming from a fan POV, but it wouldn't work in reality.

You must think that this roster is soft, to think they will fall a part when a player or two get traded. The same team that stuck together when their QB "of the future" got dealt for a 4th, after spending 3 1st on the guy. Anyone is expendable after that. If you think, they would give up because a couple of players get traded says more about you and your way of thinking. Remember they are playing for paychecks and legacy. This isn't a HS team lol

Still think we're a SB roster? you still living in fantasy land. You think this team with all the injuries going on is going to win a SB lol Last year, they were healthy as can be and still couldnt do the job.

sounds like you don't have confidence in our young guys to step up. Just say that.

Did I say they were soft? No, I said telling a bunch of guys to pack it a third of the way through season when you're only one game off the division lead is a great way to lose the locker room.

Did I say they were going to win a SB? Nope, try again.

Where did I say I don't have confidence in our young players? Another swing and a miss. I just don't think throwing them all in there because "lets give up" is the solution either, especially if that's the mentality you're sending them onto the field with.

Trey got delt because we had a better option. You're just willing to part with players and wave the white flag for a couple extra lottery tickets in the draft when we'd probably get better comp picks by just letting them walk.

Maybe spend a bit more time arguing your point instead of attempting to mind read me and project my thoughts because that's all your reply was.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You're not getting a 2nd for Ward, you likely won't even get a 3rd and it most likely would be a 4th or a 5th and change. Look at what the Eagles got for Reddick, a 3rd round pick, not in 2025, but in 2026.

For that amount, better to just keep him, especially if they beat Dallas next week. Let him walk in the offseason and take the comp pick.

I think Chiefs will be willing to give up a 3rd, they lost their #2 CB during the game.

Originally posted by Predator85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You're not getting a 2nd for Ward, you likely won't even get a 3rd and it most likely would be a 4th or a 5th and change. Look at what the Eagles got for Reddick, a 3rd round pick, not in 2025, but in 2026.

For that amount, better to just keep him, especially if they beat Dallas next week. Let him walk in the offseason and take the comp pick.

I think Chiefs will be willing to give up a 3rd, they lost their #2 CB during the game.

I'd rather get nothing than give the Chiefs any help.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
At some point, we need to be honest about the situation and put feelings aside.

Yes, let's be honest.

What do you honestly think the locker room reaction would be if Kyle/Lynch walked in and said "We're one game off first in the division, it's not even midseason, but we're going to start moving some of you on so we can build for next year."

That's why this thread is pretty pointless. We're not selling.

What you tell them is we believe in you Renardo Green to become the player we drafted you to be. We see great things in you. We believe you can hold down the spot opposite Lenoir.

To the rest of the team, get your head out your ass or your getting shipped too. Enough of capitulating to players and their feelings. That hasn't got us we're we are trying to go. Take a page out of Walsh and Belichick let players know the team is bigger than any player.

Knew you'd say that. Locker room would be lost in 5 seconds flat. Good luck telling a bunch of guys who believe they are part of a SB roster to just accept giving up.

Weird that you talk about capitulating to feelings when your own frustration/emotion is over riding logic.

Even weirder that you take a hard no nonsense approach while simultaneously waving the white flag.

It might sound good coming from a fan POV, but it wouldn't work in reality.

You must think that this roster is soft, to think they will fall a part when a player or two get traded. The same team that stuck together when their QB "of the future" got dealt for a 4th, after spending 3 1st on the guy. Anyone is expendable after that. If you think, they would give up because a couple of players get traded says more about you and your way of thinking. Remember they are playing for paychecks and legacy. This isn't a HS team lol

Still think we're a SB roster? you still living in fantasy land. You think this team with all the injuries going on is going to win a SB lol Last year, they were healthy as can be and still couldnt do the job.

sounds like you don't have confidence in our young guys to step up. Just say that.

Did I say they were soft? No, I said telling a bunch of guys to pack it a third of the way through season when you're only one game off the division lead is a great way to lose the locker room.

Did I say they were going to win a SB? Nope, try again.

Where did I say I don't have confidence in our young players? Another swing and a miss. I just don't think throwing them all in there because "lets give up" is the solution either, especially if that's the mentality you're sending them onto the field with.

Trey got delt because we had a better option. You're just willing to part with players and wave the white flag for a couple extra lottery tickets in the draft when we'd probably get better comp picks by just letting them walk.

Maybe spend a bit more time arguing your point instead of attempting to mind read me and project my thoughts because that's all your reply was.

So much irony in this post.

First of all, Talk about missing. When did I say give up on the season? In your words "wave the white flag". You may want to take your own advice. Maybe go and reread my post in this thread before jumping to that conclusion.

second, Why would you assume Kyle will lose the team if he trades a player or two? It sure seems like you're insinuating that they are mentally soft. That they would check out for the remainder of the season, if they made a trade. As if they still don't have millions of reason to continue playing.

third, what was your point of bringing up "SB roster", then? Yeah, at the beginning of the season it was a "SB roster". But at this juncture, you really think it's a "SB roster"?

anyways, I've stated my opinion on the topic. You disagree and that is fine. No reason to get your panties in a bunch. ✌️