49ERS at PACKERS Thread - 2024 Season Week 12

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Injuries aren't an excuse, because even with a damn near perfect season last year it was the same result. If Kyle can't get it done with the most talent against a KC team that wasn't firing on all cylinders why do people think he can get it done next year or the year after with old uninspired players?

Show me a team that has won when they loss their franchise QB, DE, LT, LB2, CB1? Saying injuries aren't an excuse is false. Tell me Brandon Allen can see the field and process the game the same way Brock Purdy does. Tell me DeVondre Campbell is on par with Dre Greenlaw as far as tackling and making reads? Tell me, Jaylon Moore is as stout as Trent Williams. Having Charvarius Ward out there allows the team to move Lenoir and Green around more and takes pressure off of them.

Yah injuries don't matter. Let know when Patrick Mahomes back up wins a Super Bowl.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Injuries aren't an excuse, because even with a damn near perfect season last year it was the same result. If Kyle can't get it done with the most talent against a KC team that wasn't firing on all cylinders why do people think he can get it done next year or the year after with old uninspired players?

People keep saying this but KC keeps winning even without the best talent. Why is that? Start with the best coach in Andy Reid and one of the top DCs in the league. Then add a generational QB like Mahomes. The result is a team that beats everyone. It's not just the 49ers.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Just draft good players

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Injuries aren't an excuse, because even with a damn near perfect season last year it was the same result. If Kyle can't get it done with the most talent against a KC team that wasn't firing on all cylinders why do people think he can get it done next year or the year after with old uninspired players?

There was literally one head coach that did better lol. Last I checked he ain't going anywhere and if he does he better be bringing PM

KC literally almost lost to the panthers if not for their generational QB once again pulling something out of his a*****e. That has nothing to do with coaching

George Kittle made some outstanding grabs in this game. I wish everybody else was playing with that intensity.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
People keep saying this but KC keeps winning even without the best talent. Why is that? Start with the best coach in Andy Reid and one of the top DCs in the league. Then add a generational QB like Mahomes. The result is a team that beats everyone. It's not just the 49ers.

Starts with Mahomes. Period. Reid was the best choker for over two decades before he got him.

you think Andy play calls for Mahomes to scramble around for 30 secs until someone gets open or there's a holding call? How about yesterday with the 30 yards scramble with 40 secs left to win it lol?

Folks for whatever reason refuse to accept that elite talent matters….especially when it doesn't jive with their narrative.

there's a reason Mahomes and Brady have won 70% of the SBs over the past decade. It ain't just coaching.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

What's wrong with Trent at LT? s**t even Colton has been serviceable. Center is an issue and they should look at FA for that imo. Banks sucks as well. You don't need to invest top picks there though.

they need to tackle the trenches on either/both sides.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Starts with Mahomes. Period. Reid was the best choker for over two decades before he got him.

you think Andy play calls for Mahomes to scramble around for 30 secs until someone gets open or there's a holding call? How about yesterday with the 30 yards scramble with 40 secs left to win it lol?

Folks for whatever reason refuse to accept that elite talent matters….especially when it doesn't jive with their narrative.

there's a reason Mahomes and Brady have won 70% of the SBs over the past decade. It ain't just coaching.

it is coaching tho. cuz Rodgers and Brees were legends and made 2 SBs in like a combined 30 years. they were legends at QB like those other guys, but lacked the HOF coaching. you need both.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

That's my point, there are more mcglinchys than Williams in the first round

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

What's wrong with Trent at LT? s**t even Colton has been serviceable. Center is an issue and they should look at FA for that imo. Banks sucks as well. You don't need to invest top picks there though.

they need to tackle the trenches on either/both sides.

Missed the point completely, Williams is retiring soon gonna leave a huge hole, Colton is a replacement? Nah. lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

That's my point, there are more mcglinchys than Williams in the first round

Miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Odd that from 2000-2020, top three positions that with first round hit rates (players that signed a second contract with same team by position were C (92%), OT (59%), and OG (50%). Those are actually the only 3 positions over 50% sucess. Odds are obviously better when drafting these positions in the first round.

How the DC still has a job is mind blowing this team needs to be gutted

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Who is ready for Kyle/Lynch to pass on another first round OL?

Will you be happy with another mcglinchy?

Negative. Will you be happy with someone other than T. Williams at LT?

That's my point, there are more mcglinchys than Williams in the first round

Miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Odd that from 2000-2020, top three positions that with first round hit rates (players that signed a second contract with same team by position were C (92%), OT (59%), and OG (50%). Those are actually the only 3 positions over 50% sucess. Odds are obviously better when drafting these positions in the first round.

lol, signing second contract doesn't determine anything

Like i said, will you be happy with another Mcglinch? you should right, cause we did draft high ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
People keep saying this but KC keeps winning even without the best talent. Why is that? Start with the best coach in Andy Reid and one of the top DCs in the league. Then add a generational QB like Mahomes. The result is a team that beats everyone. It's not just the 49ers.

Starts with Mahomes. Period. Reid was the best choker for over two decades before he got him.

you think Andy play calls for Mahomes to scramble around for 30 secs until someone gets open or there's a holding call? How about yesterday with the 30 yards scramble with 40 secs left to win it lol?

Folks for whatever reason refuse to accept that elite talent matters….especially when it doesn't jive with their narrative.

there's a reason Mahomes and Brady have won 70% of the SBs over the past decade. It ain't just coaching.

What elite talent did Brady have? He was certainly not that athletic. He would be last at a combine. In fact it's one reason he dropped a lot from the combine. Later in his career he was even older and less athletic. He was the slowest guy on the field. He didn't have the strongest arm by far. Granted he was accurate with timing and anticipation. Reads and progressions were great. But he's not an elite physical talent. Other than being 6'4". Which is a skill. It helps you see the field. But if you picked QB's by how fast they can run and how far they can throw he wouldn't stand out to you. Like at a combine.