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Nov 18, 2024 at 5:06 PM
- SanFranFanfrmVa
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Of course the NFL admits that Seattle called back to back timeouts. They cheated the entire game for the Seahawks. I'm over this BS. The league is completely rigged for entertainment and gambling.
Nov 18, 2024 at 5:22 PM
- RiceOwensStokes
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I'm numb to it
Nov 18, 2024 at 5:27 PM
- MucketyMuck
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So... They just let it slide? I would like to hear the explanation.
Nov 20, 2024 at 10:37 PM
- DRCHOWDER
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
So... They just let it slide? I would like to hear the explanation.
They just released an official NFL explaination
Nov 21, 2024 at 1:14 AM
- BobS
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Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:I usually do not complain about the officiating as I think bad calls come out in the wash and I know how hard it is to officiate on the field especially with all the subjective calls. That being said I have seen some utter BS lately. Without looking it up I believe back to back timeouts being called is a loss of the timeout you should not have called and a five yard penalty. I watch all the 49er games because I made a season bet on them which I decided to back up as I now think Arizona will win the division. I still think poor coaching takes the highest percentage of the blame for the loss. With Bosa out I think I only saw one pass rush with more than 4. Having a clean pocket and time to throw even Geno Smith can look like Joe Montana. Shanny also did not take enough risk on offense on the last drive to keep the chains moving.
Of course the NFL admits that Seattle called back to back timeouts. They cheated the entire game for the Seahawks. I'm over this BS. The league is completely rigged for entertainment and gambling.
Watching the Monday Night game it was like the referees were trying the best they could to keep the Cowboys in the game. Any pass interference over 15 yards or on 3rd down, including defensive holding on 3rd down needs to be reviewed. All personal fouls need to be also, let those be reviewed off site to speed it up. A violent looking hit will draw a flag most of the time even if legal.
Nov 21, 2024 at 1:33 AM
- JTB1974
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It would have made it 4th and 1 and the Niners would have definetely gone for it knowing they were at the Seahawks side of the field and had no Nick Bosa. Plus there was still almost 3 minutes left, Time was not an issue no matter where the Seahawks started with the ball. I think they should have went for it anyways when it was 4th and 6. If you don't get it, The Seahawks would start close to midfield and wouldn't be able to drain the entire clock. With no pass rush the TD was guaranteed, It was just a matter of how much time the Seahawks would leave on the clock. Having them start at midfield would actually be better than them starting at their own 20.
Nov 21, 2024 at 3:12 AM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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When a team calls back to back timeouts, the referee can just ignore the second timeout. But if they do stop play and do not ignore it then a 5 yard penalty should be enforced which was the case here. That officiating error likely cost us the game.
[ Edited by ninerfaninnorcal on Nov 21, 2024 at 3:13 AM ]
Nov 21, 2024 at 4:08 AM
- Montana
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I can't believe the morons that call these games. It has to be rigged, at least, a little cause people can't be this dumb over and over again lol. Like where/how do they get licensed? Like some shady, driving school course? DashMart? Lol. Just too many stupid things happen in the NFL to where, it has gotta be rigged somehow. I still feel the Superbowls are rigged..unless Shanny is a complete dumbass over and over. (Sorry not sorry) lol. It is like the WWE with corporate influence type feels, political bs..I remember when football felt like real football with none of this b******t. Those were the days.
Nov 21, 2024 at 6:49 AM
- DrEll
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It was 4th and 6 ? So a five yard penalty. Kyle still punts. Or he attempts a 50+ yard FG that Moody likely misses.
The truth: Kyle's balls shouldn't have shrank and he should've gone for the kill shot on 4th and 6. Especially since he just had 2 last second losses against division foes earlier in the season when he decided to turtle up and give them the ball at the end.
But Kyle is Kyle. He's a horrible game manager that pussies out at the most inopportune moments. He could've closed it right then and there but instead decided to give Seattle a chance. Another one of those "play not to lose rather than play to win" moments of the Kyle Shanahan era. 118th ranking out of 125 coaches in close game scenarios with a .396 winning percentage
The truth: Kyle's balls shouldn't have shrank and he should've gone for the kill shot on 4th and 6. Especially since he just had 2 last second losses against division foes earlier in the season when he decided to turtle up and give them the ball at the end.
But Kyle is Kyle. He's a horrible game manager that pussies out at the most inopportune moments. He could've closed it right then and there but instead decided to give Seattle a chance. Another one of those "play not to lose rather than play to win" moments of the Kyle Shanahan era. 118th ranking out of 125 coaches in close game scenarios with a .396 winning percentage
Nov 21, 2024 at 7:08 AM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by DrEll:
It was 4th and 6 ? So a five yard penalty. Kyle still punts. Or he attempts a 50+ yard FG that Moody likely misses.
The truth: Kyle's balls shouldn't have shrank and he should've gone for the kill shot on 4th and 6. Especially since he just had 2 last second losses against division foes earlier in the season when he decided to turtle up and give them the ball at the end.
But Kyle is Kyle. He's a horrible game manager that pussies out at the most inopportune moments. He could've closed it right then and there but instead decided to give Seattle a chance. Another one of those "play not to lose rather than play to win" moments of the Kyle Shanahan era. 118th ranking out of 125 coaches in close game scenarios with a .396 winning percentage
You're opinion is irrelevant.
Nov 21, 2024 at 7:32 AM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
It was 4th and 6 ? So a five yard penalty. Kyle still punts. Or he attempts a 50+ yard FG that Moody likely misses.
The truth: Kyle's balls shouldn't have shrank and he should've gone for the kill shot on 4th and 6. Especially since he just had 2 last second losses against division foes earlier in the season when he decided to turtle up and give them the ball at the end.
But Kyle is Kyle. He's a horrible game manager that pussies out at the most inopportune moments. He could've closed it right then and there but instead decided to give Seattle a chance. Another one of those "play not to lose rather than play to win" moments of the Kyle Shanahan era. 118th ranking out of 125 coaches in close game scenarios with a .396 winning percentage
You're opinion is irrelevant.
Nov 21, 2024 at 12:22 PM
- mcwoot
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When every other advertisement is for a gambling app it's hard not to question the integrity of those who can affect outcomes
Nov 21, 2024 at 1:24 PM
- OhioNiner
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Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:I usually do not complain about the officiating as I think bad calls come out in the wash and I know how hard it is to officiate on the field especially with all the subjective calls. That being said I have seen some utter BS lately. Without looking it up I believe back to back timeouts being called is a loss of the timeout you should not have called and a five yard penalty. I watch all the 49er games because I made a season bet on them which I decided to back up as I now think Arizona will win the division. I still think poor coaching takes the highest percentage of the blame for the loss. With Bosa out I think I only saw one pass rush with more than 4. Having a clean pocket and time to throw even Geno Smith can look like Joe Montana. Shanny also did not take enough risk on offense on the last drive to keep the chains moving.
Of course the NFL admits that Seattle called back to back timeouts. They cheated the entire game for the Seahawks. I'm over this BS. The league is completely rigged for entertainment and gambling.
Watching the Monday Night game it was like the referees were trying the best they could to keep the Cowboys in the game. Any pass interference over 15 yards or on 3rd down, including defensive holding on 3rd down needs to be reviewed. All personal fouls need to be also, let those be reviewed off site to speed it up. A violent looking hit will draw a flag most of the time even if legal.
It's not just NFL and what makes it bad is when they bring in the "rules expert" who says, "Yeah this was a bad call".
I was watching the Wisconsin/Oregon game last Saturday at my mom and dad's house. Now, Wisconsin didn't really play well enough to win in all likelihood. But they had a chance. They called a chop block on Wisconsin when the game was still winnable in the fourth quarter and you could see on replay that the Oregon player wasn't hitter or blocked like any lower than the hip and the upper thigh at best. That's a chop block and you can't see that? Again, I get some distance away and full game speed. But they never used to miss calls this blatantly that I can recall.
So rigged or not rigged, I think it's rigged myself. And if it isn't then the league, and even college, needs to get off their collective booties and fix it. Fans won't care that much if the game is slowed down if you're correcting mistakes and bad calls. That old axiom of you play well enough that you leave the officials out of it is true enough. But the reality is most games are at least reasonably close most of the way through and there are too many one score or one to two score games in which a really horrible call or no call by the officials had too big of an influence on the outcome.