DC & STC Candidates

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Pete Carroll as well interviewed with the Bears, so add him to the list. Wouldn't be surprised to see him coaching again soon.

I don't think Pete Carroll is a serious option or a finalist for the job in Chicago. Caleb Williams has stated he wants an Offensive coach. Personally I think Ben Johnson is the pick here.

The Raiders and Jags need to hurry up and pick finalists so Saleh can just accept the DC job.

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Raiders and Jags need to hurry up and pick finalists so Saleh can just accept the DC job.

Matt Barrows expects the 49ers to make a decision on Saleh in this coming week. If Saleh is still unavailable, hopefully SF interviews Allen and even Anarumo, etc. The clock is ticking, our FO must feel this.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Raiders and Jags need to hurry up and pick finalists so Saleh can just accept the DC job.

Matt Barrows expects the 49ers to make a decision on Saleh in this coming week. If Saleh is still unavailable, hopefully SF interviews Allen and even Anarumo, etc. The clock is ticking, our FO must feel this.

They could have done that already. The Colts have interviewed them. Shanahan may end up where he was last year, settling for a DC because there are no other options.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Raiders and Jags need to hurry up and pick finalists so Saleh can just accept the DC job.

Matt Barrows expects the 49ers to make a decision on Saleh in this coming week. If Saleh is still unavailable, hopefully SF interviews Allen and even Anarumo, etc. The clock is ticking, our FO must feel this.

If it's not Saleh, hoping it's Allen. Really like what he's done coordinating Ds. He has some ties from the past to the Bay Area so maybe that could help things come to fruition if the Niners would consider him.

You would think Kyle would get a clue from the fact that literally nobody is interviewing Staley to be their DC Everything the guy touches turns to **** and apparently only 31 teams are aware of that. Even the Rams got rid of him and then boom they're champions!

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
If it's not Saleh, hoping it's Allen. Really like what he's done coordinating Ds. He has some ties from the past to the Bay Area so maybe that could help things come to fruition if the Niners would consider him.

The only concern I have about Allen is his utilization of personnel, especially linebackers. Alex Anzalone spent four years in New Orleans as a part time starter and special teamer. He goes to Detroit and he's instantly their starting middle linebacker and performs well for them.

Zack Baun was primarily a special teamer and third string LB with the Saints. He signed with the Eagles in the offseason and in his first year he's a full-time starter and an All Pro.

Did these guys magically develop after leaving? Did Allen not recognize their talent or did he not put them in the best position for success?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
You would think Kyle would get a clue from the fact that literally nobody is interviewing Staley to be their DC Everything the guy touches turns to **** and apparently only 31 teams are aware of that. Even the Rams got rid of him and then boom they're champions!

He left the Rams because he got hired as the HC of the LAC.

Some of yall need to step off the ledge and take some deep breaths. The sky is not falling.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Niners99:
The Raiders and Jags need to hurry up and pick finalists so Saleh can just accept the DC job.

Matt Barrows expects the 49ers to make a decision on Saleh in this coming week. If Saleh is still unavailable, hopefully SF interviews Allen and even Anarumo, etc. The clock is ticking, our FO must feel this.

If it's not Saleh, hoping it's Allen. Really like what he's done coordinating Ds. He has some ties from the past to the Bay Area so maybe that could help things come to fruition if the Niners would consider him.

I know quiete a few that can coordinate Ds

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
If it's not Saleh, hoping it's Allen. Really like what he's done coordinating Ds. He has some ties from the past to the Bay Area so maybe that could help things come to fruition if the Niners would consider him.

The only concern I have about Allen is his utilization of personnel, especially linebackers. Alex Anzalone spent four years in New Orleans as a part time starter and special teamer. He goes to Detroit and he's instantly their starting middle linebacker and performs well for them.

Zack Baun was primarily a special teamer and third string LB with the Saints. He signed with the Eagles in the offseason and in his first year he's a full-time starter and an All Pro.

Did these guys magically develop after leaving? Did Allen not recognize their talent or did he not put them in the best position for success?

Those are legitimate concerns.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
If it's not Saleh, hoping it's Allen. Really like what he's done coordinating Ds. He has some ties from the past to the Bay Area so maybe that could help things come to fruition if the Niners would consider him.

The only concern I have about Allen is his utilization of personnel, especially linebackers. Alex Anzalone spent four years in New Orleans as a part time starter and special teamer. He goes to Detroit and he's instantly their starting middle linebacker and performs well for them.

Zack Baun was primarily a special teamer and third string LB with the Saints. He signed with the Eagles in the offseason and in his first year he's a full-time starter and an All Pro.

Did these guys magically develop after leaving? Did Allen not recognize their talent or did he not put them in the best position for success?

Those are interesting concerns. Who knows what happened with guys like Anzalone and Baun. Maybe they moved on and did better in a different scheme with other talent & position coaches around them? Baun has seemed to thrive in Fangio's scheme. Anzalone, I know he's a starter & captain for Detroit and has done pretty well…thought the Niners exploited him somewhat in last year's NFC Championship game.

But those are two good examples you raise. Overall from what I've seen, Allen seems to call a good D game & really has his guys playing hard - all which seems to present tough challenges for opposing offenses.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
You would think Kyle would get a clue from the fact that literally nobody is interviewing Staley to be their DC Everything the guy touches turns to **** and apparently only 31 teams are aware of that. Even the Rams got rid of him and then boom they're champions!

He left the Rams because he got hired as the HC of the LAC.

Some of yall need to step off the ledge and take some deep breaths. The sky is not falling.

Yes, and then the Rams were champions and the Chargers got about as far as Harbaugh has already taken them in one season.

I'm just saying, I would take Dennis Allen over Staley 10 times out of 10. Allen's resume, while checkered and comes with some playoff chokes like the Minneapolis Miracle, at least includes four playoff wins and an NFC Championship appearance as DC. Staley has one playoff win as DC and it was in an empty Seahawks stadium. The DC's right before and after him got to the Super Bowl.

Give me Saleh or Allen please. I would rather fire Staley than deal with him at all. The guy is a walking bad omen. Just because he said "you have to run AND throw the ball well!" in a press conference doesn't mean he's a magician.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I feel like it's either Jaguars or nothing for Saleh as far as HC goes.

And Jaguars beat reporters are saying that Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen are the two favorites for that job. With Detroit knocked out, we might see some quick resolution for some of these jobs.

If I'm the Jaguars, I would certainly not hire a Defensive HC.
Helping Trevor Lawrence should be their priority.

Dan Quinn is a defensive minded coach with Daniels. You got DR and Stroud. Tomlin a defensive coach got more out of Russell Wislon than the great offensive mind of Sean Peyton. Not to mention how did the last two offensive minded coaches work out for Jacksonville? I could easily see why they go with defensive minded coach

Sure but then what will happen to Daniels when someone will hire Kliff Kingsbury as HC? Same with Stroud and Bobby Slowik.
Having your offensive mastermind be the HC of your team is such a plus for young QBs.
QBs and specially young QBs need continuity. I'm sure working with Andy Reid all these years helped a lot Mahomes.
Same for Joe with Bill Walsh.
Let's see what happens with Jared Goff in Detroit next season without Ben Johnson.
That's why the Niners are lucky to have Kyle.
We're not in the same situation the Niners were in 1995 when Mike left to be the HC of the Broncos.
The Niners would certainly have won another Superbowl in the Nineties if Mike stayed as HC or at least OC.

And to get back to Trevor Lawrence, he was supposed to be the next big thing.
Right now, the Jaguars should think about helping the guy they pay a ton of money.
Having his new HC be someone like Ben Johnson or Liam Coen would change a lot of things for him.

Originally posted by pdc20:
Yeah about that Staley thing.
Sure he was a bad HC with the Chargers but he was a really, really good DC for the Rams.
Plus I remember when some Webzoners said that hiring Kocurek was stupidity since he had been fired from the Lions and the Dolphins.
I bet some people here would have lost their mind if Spags was hired as DC by Kyle in 2017 after his wonderful run with the Rams and his incredible second DC job with the Giants.
And I want Dennis Allen or Robert Saleh by the way as DC.

He had 1 good defense with Prime Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. Hasn't done much since

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by pdc20:

Yeah about that Staley thing.
Sure he was a bad HC with the Chargers but he was a really, really good DC for the Rams.
Plus I remember when some Webzoners said that hiring Kocurek was stupidity since he had been fired from the Lions and the Dolphins.
I bet some people here would have lost their mind if Spags was hired as DC by Kyle in 2017 after his wonderful run with the Rams and his incredible second DC job with the Giants.
And I want Dennis Allen or Robert Saleh by the way as DC.

He had 1 good defense with Prime Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey. Hasn't done much since

Yep and his defenses were not good at LAC. I rather have Townsend than Staley as a backup to Saleh and Allen