DC & STC Candidates

Originally posted by ninersporvida:
Saleh just makes sense at this point....get it done before California becomes a wasteland

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah I love him but thinking the same. I bet it will be someone new fresh. Not a retread. A surprise.

I think Saleh is pretty much a lock unless he gets a HC offer. They've had someone "new and fresh" the last couple of years, how did that go for them?

With Saleh you skip a lot of that new coordinator awkwardness. You have Warner, Bosa and possibly Greenlaw who already know him and seem to like him a lot so it'll make it easier to hit the ground running. He's more experienced now and likely to add some more wrinkles to his defense and he's also someone who seems to have a good eye for LB talent which never hurts.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah I love him but thinking the same. I bet it will be someone new fresh. Not a retread. A surprise.

I think Saleh is pretty much a lock unless he gets a HC offer. They've had someone "new and fresh" the last couple of years, how did that go for them?

With Saleh you skip a lot of that new coordinator awkwardness. You have Warner, Bosa and possibly Greenlaw who already know him and seem to like him a lot so it'll make it easier to hit the ground running. He's more experienced now and likely to add some more wrinkles to his defense and he's also someone who seems to have a good eye for LB talent which never hurts.

There's a lot of hope of your post. Saleh doesn't have the same caliber roster he had 5-6 years ago. I just think this is Kyle just doing what he does best: find yes men to do his bidding. He promotes Kubiak. Rehires Saleh. Might end up moving Sorenson to STs. And will keep Staley as assistant head coach. Tell me he's making changes when he's actually not really making changes….

I think we're about to witness the end of the Kyle Shanahan era in 2025…

It's really sad
out ST has been specially awful for several years! Except one game against GB in playoffs, they have been a liability whether it is in coverage, FG or punting situations. I don't recall teams missing FG or shanking punts against us. They feel emboldened to do many fakes and execute it almost every time it feels like when they go for it
We don't generate consistent return threat and makes me cringe when they try to put Deebo back there or roll out new punt returners that seem to fumble easily.. then they decide to put rookies in Super Bowl that seemingly cost us the game, and they don't learn next year and do same mistakes
we try to be cute and kick short and get our kicker injured instead of playing safe in meaningless games
yea our punter excels at pinning teams deep on short kicks, but I don't ever see him booming 60+ yard punts to change the field

seriously:. Whenever I see ST up, I hold my breath

shouldn't be like that

Of Saleh goes to the Jags. He will just be another scapegoat for Baalke.

I'm surprised Saleh is that desperate to be a HC again to even consider that job in JAX with the same nonsense he just came from in NY with an incompetent owner and GM.

Originally posted by SFrush:
It's Saleh's job. Only a matter of time.

Please Shanahan, make it happen!

Saleh..you are our only hope

Originally posted by DrEll:
There's a lot of hope of your post. Saleh doesn't have the same caliber roster he had 5-6 years ago. I just think this is Kyle just doing what he does best: find yes men to do his bidding. He promotes Kubiak. Rehires Saleh. Might end up moving Sorenson to STs. And will keep Staley as assistant head coach. Tell me he's making changes when he's actually not really making changes….

I think we're about to witness the end of the Kyle Shanahan era in 2025…

Promoting Kubiak is not self serving. He's already said Klay's duties will be the same, the position helps to Groom Kubiak for future positions. Comes with a pay raise, allows him to speak to media, etc. He did the same thing with Mcdaniel as a recognition of good work. He's taking care of his guys, its what good coaches do.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:
There's a lot of hope of your post. Saleh doesn't have the same caliber roster he had 5-6 years ago. I just think this is Kyle just doing what he does best: find yes men to do his bidding. He promotes Kubiak. Rehires Saleh. Might end up moving Sorenson to STs. And will keep Staley as assistant head coach. Tell me he's making changes when he's actually not really making changes….

I think we're about to witness the end of the Kyle Shanahan era in 2025…

Promoting Kubiak is not self serving. He's already said Klay's duties will be the same, the position helps to Groom Kubiak for future positions. Comes with a pay raise, allows him to speak to media, etc. He did the same thing with Mcdaniel as a recognition of good work. He's taking care of his guys, its what good coaches do.

Of course it's self serving. Yes Klay gets some fringe benefits, but this move gives Kyle sole authority over play calling and running the offense. Comeon now, let's not make this into Kyle's saintly moves to make the team better. Clearly this decision does nothing of the sort.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Also, show me the top 5 defensive every year and they always have a solid d Line that stops the run. We are missing that at dt. My assumption (I know. Dangerous word) is they will address that this offseason.

If they don't address DT in this DT heavy draft class I'll join the fire Shanahan and Lynch brigade. I'll bring t-shirts, hors d'oeuvres and whatever beer I can steal out of Cisco's fridge.

They have neglected it 2 years in a row now. They gotta see the glaring weakness

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
I'm surprised Saleh is that desperate to be a HC again to even consider that job in JAX with the same nonsense he just came from in NY with an incompetent owner and GM.

Its rare for a minority coach to get a 2nd shot. Gotta take what you can. Jacksonville has talent. Better set up than the Jets have. It's not a bad job. He can fall back and be a DC anywhere anytime.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:
There's a lot of hope of your post. Saleh doesn't have the same caliber roster he had 5-6 years ago. I just think this is Kyle just doing what he does best: find yes men to do his bidding. He promotes Kubiak. Rehires Saleh. Might end up moving Sorenson to STs. And will keep Staley as assistant head coach. Tell me he's making changes when he's actually not really making changes….

I think we're about to witness the end of the Kyle Shanahan era in 2025…

Promoting Kubiak is not self serving. He's already said Klay's duties will be the same, the position helps to Groom Kubiak for future positions. Comes with a pay raise, allows him to speak to media, etc. He did the same thing with Mcdaniel as a recognition of good work. He's taking care of his guys, its what good coaches do.

Of course it's self serving. Yes Klay gets some fringe benefits, but this move gives Kyle sole authority over play calling and running the offense. Comeon now, let's not make this into Kyle's saintly moves to make the team better. Clearly this decision does nothing of the sort.

Newsflash : Kyle had sole authority over play calling and running the offense before he made this move and would have still had it had he not made this move or had he brought in an outsider to be the OC.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:
There's a lot of hope of your post. Saleh doesn't have the same caliber roster he had 5-6 years ago. I just think this is Kyle just doing what he does best: find yes men to do his bidding. He promotes Kubiak. Rehires Saleh. Might end up moving Sorenson to STs. And will keep Staley as assistant head coach. Tell me he's making changes when he's actually not really making changes….

I think we're about to witness the end of the Kyle Shanahan era in 2025…

Promoting Kubiak is not self serving. He's already said Klay's duties will be the same, the position helps to Groom Kubiak for future positions. Comes with a pay raise, allows him to speak to media, etc. He did the same thing with Mcdaniel as a recognition of good work. He's taking care of his guys, its what good coaches do.

Of course it's self serving. Yes Klay gets some fringe benefits, but this move gives Kyle sole authority over play calling and running the offense. Comeon now, let's not make this into Kyle's saintly moves to make the team better. Clearly this decision does nothing of the sort.

Newsflash : Kyle had sole authority over play calling and running the offense before he made this move and would have still had it had he not made this move or had he brought in an outsider to be the OC.

Yep. And that's exactly why his offense has become stale and predictable.

If Saleh appears like he is ready to be a coordinator for an extended period of time, I am good with it. If he wants to continue looking for head coaching jobs in the next few years I would absolutely pass on him. We need stability. Don't want to keep losing coordinators every year.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If Saleh appears like he is ready to be a coordinator for an extended period of time, I am good with it. If he wants to continue looking for head coaching jobs in the next few years I would absolutely pass on him. We need stability. Don't want to keep losing coordinators every year.

This is why I'm not really all in on him. He's clearly shown by his actions that hes 1 foot in 1 foot out already and hes not even our DC yet.