DC & STC Replacement Ideas

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Like you said, open the checkbook for Rizzi if he's available. ST is too important as a 3rd Phase of the game - ST this year arguably cost this team a win or two, maybe more. In today's NFL, you have to either be even or win in ST just about every game.

Pay for an upper echelon STC and get him what he needs and he's off and running.

If you look at Andy Reid in KC, he's got an incredible defensive coordinator that is rock solid, he also has one of the top special teams coordinators in the game and a guy who has drawn HC interviews in past years. Kyle needs to put together that kind of staff where everyone else is handling their business and there's a lot less on his plate to deal with.

100%.

The Chiefs example is a good one. They take ST seriously and it shows game in and game out. They are very tough in all three phases, and they have the excellent coaching in all three. It's what makes them so difficult to beat when you watch them play closely (it's not just Mahomes).

it's because we don't have a real HC.. KS10 knows offense and that's about it. .. how long has our ST been below average?

This team needs a new beginning while we still have the players... Look, one who may not be pretty w/designing plays, but one who can strategize..

PJ FLECK.. DAN LANNING..

Dan Lanning takes way too many risks. His strength is recruiting and that won't help in the NFL. Even die hard Ducks fans have questioned his in game coaching decisions.

no one knows QUESTIONING COACHING DECISIONS more than us!! no??

why not have a different coach at least.. lol

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Like you said, open the checkbook for Rizzi if he's available. ST is too important as a 3rd Phase of the game - ST this year arguably cost this team a win or two, maybe more. In today's NFL, you have to either be even or win in ST just about every game.

Pay for an upper echelon STC and get him what he needs and he's off and running.

If you look at Andy Reid in KC, he's got an incredible defensive coordinator that is rock solid, he also has one of the top special teams coordinators in the game and a guy who has drawn HC interviews in past years. Kyle needs to put together that kind of staff where everyone else is handling their business and there's a lot less on his plate to deal with.

100%.

The Chiefs example is a good one. They take ST seriously and it shows game in and game out. They are very tough in all three phases, and they have the excellent coaching in all three. It's what makes them so difficult to beat when you watch them play closely (it's not just Mahomes).

it's because we don't have a real HC.. KS10 knows offense and that's about it. .. how long has our ST been below average?

This team needs a new beginning while we still have the players... Look, one who may not be pretty w/designing plays, but one who can strategize..

PJ FLECK.. DAN LANNING..

Chiefs have a top 3 special teams coach who was previously seen as a HC candidate even. Dude is never leaving there otherwise. They are just so lucky they have two GOATs as their coordinators who no one wants as HC

bruh, may they aren't made to be a HC.. Something KS10 should really consider.. how many GREAT coordinators were and are out there who was not much of a HC..

That's where KS10 belongs..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Like you said, open the checkbook for Rizzi if he's available. ST is too important as a 3rd Phase of the game - ST this year arguably cost this team a win or two, maybe more. In today's NFL, you have to either be even or win in ST just about every game.

Pay for an upper echelon STC and get him what he needs and he's off and running.

If you look at Andy Reid in KC, he's got an incredible defensive coordinator that is rock solid, he also has one of the top special teams coordinators in the game and a guy who has drawn HC interviews in past years. Kyle needs to put together that kind of staff where everyone else is handling their business and there's a lot less on his plate to deal with.

100%.

The Chiefs example is a good one. They take ST seriously and it shows game in and game out. They are very tough in all three phases, and they have the excellent coaching in all three. It's what makes them so difficult to beat when you watch them play closely (it's not just Mahomes).

it's because we don't have a real HC.. KS10 knows offense and that's about it. .. how long has our ST been below average?

This team needs a new beginning while we still have the players... Look, one who may not be pretty w/designing plays, but one who can strategize..

PJ FLECK.. DAN LANNING..

Chiefs have a top 3 special teams coach who was previously seen as a HC candidate even. Dude is never leaving there otherwise. They are just so lucky they have two GOATs as their coordinators who no one wants as HC

bruh, may they aren't made to be a HC.. Something KS10 should really consider.. how many GREAT coordinators were and are out there who was not much of a HC..

That's where KS10 belongs..

Did you forget John Harbaugh was a Special Teams coach before becoming a super bowl winning HC?..

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Like you said, open the checkbook for Rizzi if he's available. ST is too important as a 3rd Phase of the game - ST this year arguably cost this team a win or two, maybe more. In today's NFL, you have to either be even or win in ST just about every game.

Pay for an upper echelon STC and get him what he needs and he's off and running.

If you look at Andy Reid in KC, he's got an incredible defensive coordinator that is rock solid, he also has one of the top special teams coordinators in the game and a guy who has drawn HC interviews in past years. Kyle needs to put together that kind of staff where everyone else is handling their business and there's a lot less on his plate to deal with.

100%.

The Chiefs example is a good one. They take ST seriously and it shows game in and game out. They are very tough in all three phases, and they have the excellent coaching in all three. It's what makes them so difficult to beat when you watch them play closely (it's not just Mahomes).

it's because we don't have a real HC.. KS10 knows offense and that's about it. .. how long has our ST been below average?

This team needs a new beginning while we still have the players... Look, one who may not be pretty w/designing plays, but one who can strategize..

PJ FLECK.. DAN LANNING..

Chiefs have a top 3 special teams coach who was previously seen as a HC candidate even. Dude is never leaving there otherwise. They are just so lucky they have two GOATs as their coordinators who no one wants as HC

bruh, may they aren't made to be a HC.. Something KS10 should really consider.. how many GREAT coordinators were and are out there who was not much of a HC..

That's where KS10 belongs..

Did you forget John Harbaugh was a Special Teams coach before becoming a super bowl winning HC?..

yes, some are made to be a HC... how long you going to keep believing that KS10 is a legit HC..

all you need to do is think of MARTZ - NORV - CHAO - JUNE JONES... all are very good OC, and it stops there..

Lets face it Sorensen is coming back for a second season!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it Sorensen is coming back for a second season!!!

Saleh stayed after his first season

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it Sorensen is coming back for a second season!!!

Saleh stayed after his first season

I know, but I think we were on our way to having a new DC!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets face it Sorensen is coming back for a second season!!!

My bet is that he'll be back. It's a tough job to command a defense with only one year, some continuity might be wise. I've been very frustrated with his defense as well.
Keeping Wilkes for a second year may have been the correct move, and maybe that is the best course with Sorenson. Unless there is an obvious upgrade who is a sure thing to come here.
I think changing coordinators every year is probably more harmful than helpful.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Like you said, open the checkbook for Rizzi if he's available. ST is too important as a 3rd Phase of the game - ST this year arguably cost this team a win or two, maybe more. In today's NFL, you have to either be even or win in ST just about every game.

Pay for an upper echelon STC and get him what he needs and he's off and running.

If you look at Andy Reid in KC, he's got an incredible defensive coordinator that is rock solid, he also has one of the top special teams coordinators in the game and a guy who has drawn HC interviews in past years. Kyle needs to put together that kind of staff where everyone else is handling their business and there's a lot less on his plate to deal with.

That would be so ideal man, we can only hope this eventually happens for SF

i'll keep saying dennis allen. he could be another Spags

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll keep saying dennis allen. he could be another Spags

A mediocre DC propped up by a HOF QB?

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll keep saying dennis allen. he could be another Spags

A mediocre DC propped up by a HOF QB?

Spags is an all time DC. he did the NYG win over unbeaten NE and he stymied us 2x. he's the top coordinator in the game today. Allen i have a lot of respect for he was locking Brady down, when Brady was dominating in Tampa. now he's a failed HC so he can be a long term DC here if we want him. he's a 2x failed HC actually. that's what you want, he won't get poached.

Originally posted by 9moon:
yes, some are made to be a HC... how long you going to keep believing that KS10 is a legit HC..

all you need to do is think of MARTZ - NORV - CHAO - JUNE JONES... all are very good OC, and it stops there..

None of those coaches has had the success Kyle has had as a head coach.

Kyle has made mistakes. We got it. We know. We are well aware. But its dumb to put the 2 Super Bowl loses squarely on his shoulders. Yes he deserves blame but you also have to put some of the blame on the multi million dollar professional players as well for not executing. CMC fumble in Chiefs territory, Moody missed FG, Burford not picking up the block, defense getting ran through, etc.

None of those guys you mentioned had long term success. None.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll keep saying dennis allen. he could be another Spags

A mediocre DC propped up by a HOF QB?

Spags is an all time DC. he did the NYG win over unbeaten NE and he stymied us 2x. he's the top coordinator in the game today. Allen i have a lot of respect for he was locking Brady down, when Brady was dominating in Tampa. now he's a failed HC so he can be a long term DC here if we want him. he's a 2x failed HC actually. that's what you want, he won't get poached.

D ranking from 2007-2024: 7, 5, 29, 19, 22, 32, 32, 10, 31, 31, 17, 16, 27, 11, 2, 6. He had a top 10 defense in 5 of his 16 years.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'll keep saying dennis allen. he could be another Spags

A mediocre DC propped up by a HOF QB?

Spags is an all time DC. he did the NYG win over unbeaten NE and he stymied us 2x. he's the top coordinator in the game today. Allen i have a lot of respect for he was locking Brady down, when Brady was dominating in Tampa. now he's a failed HC so he can be a long term DC here if we want him. he's a 2x failed HC actually. that's what you want, he won't get poached.

D ranking from 2007-2024: 7, 5, 29, 19, 22, 32, 32, 10, 31, 31, 17, 16, 27, 11, 2, 6. He had a top 10 defense in 5 of his 16 years.

you can view it thru that lens. i just go off watching the games. he may have a bizarre HOF case. he has 4 rings. shutting down prime brady and moss is an all timer.