DC & STC Candidates

Originally posted by DrEll:
Kyle Shanahan lives in his own little world. A world full of yes men that won't challenge his authority. That won't call him out on his mistakes. That will smile and nod, the classic rank and file type figures. Saleh Staley Sorenson fit that mold perfectly. He's not going to lead former coaches like Dennis Allen challenge him.

We better pray that Robert Saleh doesn't get a head coaching job. Sorenson as ST seems to be a lock. It's either Saleh or Staley…

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Kyle Shanahan lives in his own little world. A world full of yes men that won't challenge his authority. That won't call him out on his mistakes. That will smile and nod, the classic rank and file type figures. Saleh Staley Sorenson fit that mold perfectly. He's not going to lead former coaches like Dennis Allen challenge him.

We better pray that Robert Saleh doesn't get a head coaching job. Sorenson as ST seems to be a lock. It's either Saleh or Staley…

What makes Allen different than Staley or Sorenson in the context of challenging authority? They're all former coaches. They'd all be subordinates to Kyle.

What specifically is your conclusion drawn from?

Originally posted by DrEll:
That Kyle is trying to run it back by hiring a retread. He has no interest in trying a different philosophy. He's convinced his current scheme(s)….offense, defense, and STs doesn't need tweaking. What better way to showcase this than to surround yourself with Kubiak (OC), Saleh (DC) and Sorenson (ST). Especially when there are so many great candidates available….

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
lol this team is such a mess

How is it a mess?

The better question is, where to begin?

I guess for starters, they are setting themselves up for failure with this Robert Saleh or bust strategy, and when he inevitably decides to waste his time with another head coach gig, we'll be the one to suffer when we settle for a lesser candidate, again. Unless they managed to bring in Dennis Allen, which would be a much better choice than Saleh imo.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That Kyle is trying to run it back by hiring a retread. He has no interest in trying a different philosophy. He's convinced his current scheme(s)….offense, defense, and STs doesn't need tweaking. What better way to showcase this than to surround yourself with Kubiak (OC), Saleh (DC) and Sorenson (ST). Especially when there are so many great candidates available….

Saleh is a good defensive coach and our scheme has worked when we've had talent. It's not some bad idea.

I am onboard with a philosophy change as well, and agree with a lot of what was said the previous post about this time being a good time to do it.

That doesn't mean its the only right or acceptable way to go, or that it would work.

I think the most important thing going forward, provided we have any competent DC, is to get some better players. We didn't have many last year.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
That Kyle is trying to run it back by hiring a retread. He has no interest in trying a different philosophy. He's convinced his current scheme(s)….offense, defense, and STs doesn't need tweaking. What better way to showcase this than to surround yourself with Kubiak (OC), Saleh (DC) and Sorenson (ST). Especially when there are so many great candidates available….

Saleh is a good defensive coach and our scheme has worked when we've had talent. It's not some bad idea.

I am onboard with a philosophy change as well, and agree with a lot of what was said the previous post about this time being a good time to do it.

That doesn't mean its the only right or acceptable way to go, or that it would work.

I think the most important thing going forward, provided we have any competent DC, is to get some better players. We didn't have many last year.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Saleh "might" be a good short term solution, and is definitely not a long term solution because he'll be out of here in a year. To put all your eggs in the Saleh basket basically tell us that Kyle is 'running it back' with the same exact scheme and most likely the same core of players.

its an asinine strategy going into year 8 of his coaching tenure, and cements that he has no interest in changing.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Very disappointing. To have Shanahan not do his due diligence and bring in more candidates to find the best hire. Putting all his eggs into one basket - Saleh. Most likely Staley gets it if Saleh is hired elsewhere. This is typical of Shanahan even on the field - all eggs into one basket : running one rb into the ground the entire game.

How do you know he hasn't interviewed or talk to more candidates? We all didn't know Deshea Townsend was getting interviewed or even was a candidate. There's still a few more weeks to get something done. Saleh is still doing interviews and head coaches still need to be hired. No one is in a rush except us fans.

Even if he just spoke to more candidates over the phone, one would assume more in house interviews other than his savior Saleh, and a guy who is already in house that we haven't got a clue of what he does, and a Rooney ruler. Maybe not be in a rush to hire, but there a lot more teams going to look for DCs soon and maybe already. Unless he is doing all this in secret, the evidence is there. The hire of Sorensen last year is telling.

Brandon Staley is proven, and with him that's three candidates already. You may not have a clue but Shanahan knows him well. There's still a lot more teams that need head coaches and are busy with that. Don't worry if they miss on Saleh, there's a lot more options out there and we should hear something before February, I guarantee that.

As for Sorensen, Shanahan was swinging for the fences with Bill Belichick and Steve Spagnuolo, there was one or I think two more candidates. But in the end everyone knew who he was gonna settle for.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
In what world is Staley proven?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
In what world is Staley proven?

#1 overall defense in yards and points. He was the best DC McVay has had.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
In what world is Staley proven?

#1 overall defense in yards and points. He was the best DC McVay has had.

One successful year doesn't equate to proven.

How were those Charger defenses under his watch?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
In what world is Staley proven?

#1 overall defense in yards and points. He was the best DC McVay has had.

One successful year doesn't equate to proven.

How were those Charger defenses under his watch?

Kinda different when you're overseeing the team as opposed to one side of the team.

A lot of good coordinators out there don't make good HC's but are damn good coordinators. See Josh McDaniels, Steve Spags, Vic Fangio, Adam Gase and so on.

How is guiding the #1 overall defense not proven? Sure its not much of a track record but it's proven results.