GAMEDAY THREAD 49ERS AT BUFFALO 12/01 - 2024 Season Game 12

Originally posted by dj43:
The results of this game should not surprise too many Niner fans. 76% picked Buffalo to win. With 6 starters ruled out for this game, plus losing CMC early and not having Warner on the field for most of the second quarter, the score was a foregone conclusion.

Plus the way the team has played all year. Basically this has been a crap season

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by Predator85:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:

Brock not unlike his coach needs everything to be clean and healthy to be great. He can be great but needs help. 4 years 100 million final offer.

That is backup money.

Darnold making 10M at Vikings and they are 10-2

Like I said before, Brock is worth 6mil a year tops.

Sam Darnold will be available......

Unsure about their schedules. Do we need another backup next year?

One thing that really sticks in my craw, you have a guy like Sam Darnold that leaves here becomes the starter in Minnesota by default basically and they're having a way hell of a better season than us. I'm sorry but that's just f**king bulls**t, I don't care who you are. It's like he just falls into some perfect situation. He didn't do Jacks**t to earn that.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
One thing that really sticks in my craw, you have a guy like Sam Darnold that leaves here becomes the starter in Minnesota by default basically and they're having a way hell of a better season than us. I'm sorry but that's just f**king bulls**t, I don't care who you are. It's like he just falls into some perfect situation. He didn't do Jacks**t to earn that.

I think it shows more that teams and coaches give up on talented QBs faster than they should. Kyle wasn't dumb he knew there was talent there. System and roster matter.

Good on Sam for taking his opportunity and making the most of it. Baker Mayfield did the same thing.

Fans give up on players way too soon.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Hopefully the next contender 49ers team will not take playoff runs for granted

They won't. If Shanahan is not the coach.

Bless your heart, thinking it just the HC. Man so casual.

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by dj43:
The results of this game should not surprise too many Niner fans. 76% picked Buffalo to win. With 6 starters ruled out for this game, plus losing CMC early and not having Warner on the field for most of the second quarter, the score was a foregone conclusion.

Plus the way the team has played all year. Basically this has been a crap season

Would've been nice for our "elite HC that would get picked up in 5 minutes by any other team" to have this team ready to play and make a somewhat competitive game out of it. I feel like I'm watching Chip Kelly again, just zero hope to win whatsoever. At least in Chips case, his team had zero talent whatsoever

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
One thing that really sticks in my craw, you have a guy like Sam Darnold that leaves here becomes the starter in Minnesota by default basically and they're having a way hell of a better season than us. I'm sorry but that's just f**king bulls**t, I don't care who you are. It's like he just falls into some perfect situation. He didn't do Jacks**t to earn that.

I think it shows more that teams and coaches give up on talented QBs faster than they should. Kyle wasn't dumb he knew there was talent there. System and roster matter.

Good on Sam for taking his opportunity and making the most of it. Baker Mayfield did the same thing.

Fans give up on players way too soon.

Also goes to show how awful the Jets and Panthers are.

Been a Niner fan for my entire life, yesterday was the first game I ever turned off, absolutely disgusting performance, I'm hoping that we just tank for draft picks at this point, imo there is no point of playing because one loss in the next 5 weeks bounces us out, imagine a world where we win the next 3 and then lose to the lions (very realistic situation), we would probably move an entire pick down because we won the first 3 and also miss the playoffs with the loss, even if we win out and everything goes right, and by some miracle we make the playoffs we will get bounced in the first or second round, THIS IS NOT A SB CALIBER TEAM. The higher draft pick we get the higher chance that we have to make the playoffs next year, I know it's a cliche but if we tank, "next year is our year"

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
One thing that really sticks in my craw, you have a guy like Sam Darnold that leaves here becomes the starter in Minnesota by default basically and they're having a way hell of a better season than us. I'm sorry but that's just f**king bulls**t, I don't care who you are. It's like he just falls into some perfect situation. He didn't do Jacks**t to earn that.

I think it shows more that teams and coaches give up on talented QBs faster than they should. Kyle wasn't dumb he knew there was talent there. System and roster matter.

Good on Sam for taking his opportunity and making the most of it. Baker Mayfield did the same thing.

Fans give up on players way too soon.

Also goes to show how awful the Jets and Panthers are.

Horrible. Going through coaching staffs like water and folks want that to be us because they didn't win a SB f**k me jets and Panther fans would kill to watch a playoff game..much less watch multiple SBs and NFCCs games.

Originally posted by Chimmie:
Been a Niner fan for my entire life, yesterday was the first game I ever turned off, absolutely disgusting performance, I'm hoping that we just tank for draft picks at this point, imo there is no point of playing because one loss in the next 5 weeks bounces us out, imagine a world where we win the next 3 and then lose to the lions (very realistic situation), we would probably move an entire pick down because we won the first 3 and also miss the playoffs with the loss, even if we win out and everything goes right, and by some miracle we make the playoffs we will get bounced in the first or second round, THIS IS NOT A SB CALIBER TEAM. The higher draft pick we get the higher chance that we have to make the playoffs next year, I know it's a cliche but if we tank, "next year is our year"

I mean there's been way worse 49er games that I've sat through in my life. I also knew going into the game that it wasn't gonna be good…Sure because of the snow and the ability to run, it could be an any given Sunday type of game.

is what it is, f**k ton of injures and yrs and yrs of coaches getting poached. It's time to re-tool and build back up through the draft. They gotta cut some of the fat and get some fresh talent on the field, some coaching decisions need to be made as well. New DC? New ST coach (yes), fresh minds on both sides

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Chimmie:
Been a Niner fan for my entire life, yesterday was the first game I ever turned off, absolutely disgusting performance, I'm hoping that we just tank for draft picks at this point, imo there is no point of playing because one loss in the next 5 weeks bounces us out, imagine a world where we win the next 3 and then lose to the lions (very realistic situation), we would probably move an entire pick down because we won the first 3 and also miss the playoffs with the loss, even if we win out and everything goes right, and by some miracle we make the playoffs we will get bounced in the first or second round, THIS IS NOT A SB CALIBER TEAM. The higher draft pick we get the higher chance that we have to make the playoffs next year, I know it's a cliche but if we tank, "next year is our year"

I mean there's been way worse 49er games that I've sat through in my life. I also knew going into the game that it wasn't gonna be good…Sure because of the snow and the ability to run, it could be an any given Sunday type of game.

is what it is, f**k ton of injures and yrs and yrs of coaches getting poached. It's time to re-tool and build back up through the draft. They gotta cut some of the fat and get some fresh talent on the field, some coaching decisions need to be made as well. New DC? New ST coach (yes), fresh minds on both sides

100% agree, but I look at all of these niner fan pages and they're posting we still have a 12% chance and all the comments are talking about how "there is still a chance" "don't give up now" and I'm sitting here thinking about how we can have Mason Graham with the right tanking and trades, or even draft a qb, have a Michael Penix/Kirk Cousins situation maybe not in the first round but a round 2 qb sounds nice, both lines need a lot of work. I am optimistic going into next year and think that we can get back to a sb caliber team, but people need to see that even if we make the playoffs what we give up to get there will be worth so much more than the result

Even Chatgpt gets it when asked to create a gameplan in the elements. I am wondering why in the world are our players slipping everywhere (even in spurts at Green Bay) and the other teams are not (or if they were I missed it). Wtf is wrong with our coaching staff?

Playing football in extreme elements like cold weather, snow, and wind requires a strategic approach to minimize the effects of the conditions and maximize your team's strengths. Here's a comprehensive game plan to adapt to sub-30°F temperatures, 10-15 mph winds, and snow piling up on the field:

1. Adjust the Offensive Game Plan

• Run-heavy offense: Cold, snow, and wind make passing more difficult. With snow accumulating on the field, footing becomes more challenging, so running the ball effectively is key. Rely on power runs, misdirection, and option plays where the quarterback can make quick, short decisions.Running backs: Focus on downhill, between-the-tackles running. Choose a back who can secure the ball in poor conditions and churn out yards after contact.
• Quarterback running: Incorporate zone-read and designed quarterback runs (if applicable), especially if the quarterback is mobile.

• Short passing game: The wind and snow make long passes harder to complete. Focus on quick, short throws like slants, screen passes, and quick outs to move the ball efficiently.
• Play action: When conditions allow, use play action to help freeze linebackers and create open space for shorter, high-percentage passes.

2. Control the Line of Scrimmage

• Offensive line play: Expect difficult footing and poor traction. Focus on quick, low drives and sustaining blocks. The line should focus on securing the interior gaps and protecting against the elements.Zone blocking: A zone-run blocking scheme is more effective than power in snow because it allows linemen to react based on the defense's movement and gives the backs options.

• Defensive line play: On defense, keep pressure on the quarterback, but be mindful of slippery conditions. Contain the run game and don't overcommit on rushes. Force the offense to throw in challenging conditions.

3. Special Teams Adjustments

• Kicking game: Wind and snow will affect both field goals and punts. Shorten your field goal attempts to ensure you have a better chance of success.Punts: Focus on shorter, more controlled punts. Try to avoid booming kicks that could get caught in the wind or snow.
• Kickoffs: Shorter kickoffs may be more effective to avoid the risk of a long return in slippery conditions.
• Return game: Be cautious on returns. Snow and ice can make footing slippery, so focus on securing the ball first and then looking for gaps.

4. Defensive Game Plan

• Focus on stopping the run: The offense will likely try to establish a running game in these conditions. Prioritize stopping the run and setting the edge to force the ball back inside where your linebackers can make plays.
• Pressure with a disciplined pass rush: While the wind and snow make passing less effective, pressure on the quarterback can still be critical. Make sure the defense doesn't overcommit and leave big gaps in coverage.Containment: With slippery conditions, it's important to avoid over-pursuit or risky blitzes that could leave gaps.

• Defensive back coverage: In extreme weather, focus on tight, short coverage. Defensive backs should expect passes to be quicker, so react aggressively and be ready for short, contested throws. Work to disrupt timing on routes and make tackles immediately after the catch.

5. Ball Security

• Protect the football: The elements will make ball security even more important. Ensure that players secure the ball tightly, especially when running through contact or after the catch. Emphasize the "three points of pressure" when carrying the football and be extra cautious when transitioning from the run to the catch.
• Turnovers: Fumbles and interceptions can shift momentum quickly in snow and wind. Practice securing the ball and making safe, conservative decisions, especially in bad weather.

6. Adapt to the Weather

• Increased focus on field position: Since the weather will create tougher conditions for both teams, the battle for field position becomes more critical. A good punt, a strong return, or a successful special teams play could decide the game.
• Avoid risky plays: In snow and wind, aggressive or risky plays could backfire. Stick to the fundamentals and avoid unnecessary risks that could result in turnovers or negative plays.
• Substitute frequently to maintain warmth: The cold weather can sap energy quickly. Ensure you have a rotating rotation on both offense and defense to avoid fatigue from the cold.

7. Mental Toughness

• Embrace the conditions: Emphasize mental toughness to your team. In cold, snowy, and windy conditions, the team that adjusts better to the elements often wins. Keep the focus on execution, sticking to the game plan, and staying composed.
• Adjust expectations: Players should be prepared for mistakes due to the snow and wind. Keep morale high and stress that the game will be messy for both teams.

In summary, a run-heavy offense, ball control, special teams adjustments, and a disciplined, physical defense are essential to winning in these extreme conditions. The key is minimizing mistakes, securing the ball, and using the elements to your advantage while avoiding risky, high-reward plays that could backfire in snowy, windy, and slippery conditions.

Originally posted by 49erKing:
Even Chatgpt gets it when asked to create a gameplan in the elements. I am wondering why in the world are our players slipping everywhere (even in spurts at Green Bay) and the other teams are not (or if they were I missed it). Wtf is wrong with our coaching staff?

Playing football in extreme elements like cold weather, snow, and wind requires a strategic approach to minimize the effects of the conditions and maximize your team's strengths. Here's a comprehensive game plan to adapt to sub-30°F temperatures, 10-15 mph winds, and snow piling up on the field:

1. Adjust the Offensive Game Plan

• Run-heavy offense: Cold, snow, and wind make passing more difficult. With snow accumulating on the field, footing becomes more challenging, so running the ball effectively is key. Rely on power runs, misdirection, and option plays where the quarterback can make quick, short decisions.Running backs: Focus on downhill, between-the-tackles running. Choose a back who can secure the ball in poor conditions and churn out yards after contact.
• Quarterback running: Incorporate zone-read and designed quarterback runs (if applicable), especially if the quarterback is mobile.

• Short passing game: The wind and snow make long passes harder to complete. Focus on quick, short throws like slants, screen passes, and quick outs to move the ball efficiently.
• Play action: When conditions allow, use play action to help freeze linebackers and create open space for shorter, high-percentage passes.

2. Control the Line of Scrimmage

• Offensive line play: Expect difficult footing and poor traction. Focus on quick, low drives and sustaining blocks. The line should focus on securing the interior gaps and protecting against the elements.Zone blocking: A zone-run blocking scheme is more effective than power in snow because it allows linemen to react based on the defense's movement and gives the backs options.

• Defensive line play: On defense, keep pressure on the quarterback, but be mindful of slippery conditions. Contain the run game and don't overcommit on rushes. Force the offense to throw in challenging conditions.

3. Special Teams Adjustments

• Kicking game: Wind and snow will affect both field goals and punts. Shorten your field goal attempts to ensure you have a better chance of success.Punts: Focus on shorter, more controlled punts. Try to avoid booming kicks that could get caught in the wind or snow.
• Kickoffs: Shorter kickoffs may be more effective to avoid the risk of a long return in slippery conditions.
• Return game: Be cautious on returns. Snow and ice can make footing slippery, so focus on securing the ball first and then looking for gaps.

4. Defensive Game Plan

• Focus on stopping the run: The offense will likely try to establish a running game in these conditions. Prioritize stopping the run and setting the edge to force the ball back inside where your linebackers can make plays.
• Pressure with a disciplined pass rush: While the wind and snow make passing less effective, pressure on the quarterback can still be critical. Make sure the defense doesn't overcommit and leave big gaps in coverage.Containment: With slippery conditions, it's important to avoid over-pursuit or risky blitzes that could leave gaps.

• Defensive back coverage: In extreme weather, focus on tight, short coverage. Defensive backs should expect passes to be quicker, so react aggressively and be ready for short, contested throws. Work to disrupt timing on routes and make tackles immediately after the catch.

5. Ball Security

• Protect the football: The elements will make ball security even more important. Ensure that players secure the ball tightly, especially when running through contact or after the catch. Emphasize the "three points of pressure" when carrying the football and be extra cautious when transitioning from the run to the catch.
• Turnovers: Fumbles and interceptions can shift momentum quickly in snow and wind. Practice securing the ball and making safe, conservative decisions, especially in bad weather.

6. Adapt to the Weather

• Increased focus on field position: Since the weather will create tougher conditions for both teams, the battle for field position becomes more critical. A good punt, a strong return, or a successful special teams play could decide the game.
• Avoid risky plays: In snow and wind, aggressive or risky plays could backfire. Stick to the fundamentals and avoid unnecessary risks that could result in turnovers or negative plays.
• Substitute frequently to maintain warmth: The cold weather can sap energy quickly. Ensure you have a rotating rotation on both offense and defense to avoid fatigue from the cold.

7. Mental Toughness

• Embrace the conditions: Emphasize mental toughness to your team. In cold, snowy, and windy conditions, the team that adjusts better to the elements often wins. Keep the focus on execution, sticking to the game plan, and staying composed.
• Adjust expectations: Players should be prepared for mistakes due to the snow and wind. Keep morale high and stress that the game will be messy for both teams.

In summary, a run-heavy offense, ball control, special teams adjustments, and a disciplined, physical defense are essential to winning in these extreme conditions. The key is minimizing mistakes, securing the ball, and using the elements to your advantage while avoiding risky, high-reward plays that could backfire in snowy, windy, and slippery conditions.

Kyle says ChatGPT is wrong and the four fumbles are just guys not being locked in.

Why is our kicking always missing kicks?

We use to make it from the 70 yard line with an offense that can barely make it to the 50 yard line.

This kicker loses the Green Bay playoff game in the snow that Jimmy G won for us.