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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.

This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.

yup. now i take a page from rams here. cuz rams went all in and got the ring, they should have went bust. they went like 8 years with no round 1 pick. but they didn't go bust. cuz they have been crushing the recent drafts. so that's how we have to do it. it's draft and coach those guys up to make an impact year 1.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.

When you view our team objectively..as well as our playoff run...as well as how other teams in the NFC were going to get better... it just seemed like that Super Bowl was our best chance to get a ring anytime soon.

The Lions and Packers gifted us those playoff wins based off youth/inexperience on their part. They both should have beat us. They were only going to get better this season.. and they did. Then you have the Vikings coming out of the blue. Seems they have a good Head Coach who is getting the best out of his players/situation. (I still don't trust Sam Darnold). The NFC North is hogging the Wildcard spots...and the Commanders are heading in the right direction. Going forward, we might have to rely on just winning the division to make the playoffs.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Dec 13, 2024 at 1:41 PM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.

This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.

I completely agree! Those are my two biggest mistakes. Thomas and Foster were BOMBS.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yup. now i take a page from rams here. cuz rams went all in and got the ring, they should have went bust. they went like 8 years with no round 1 pick. but they didn't go bust. cuz they have been crushing the recent drafts. so that's how we have to do it. it's draft and coach those guys up to make an impact year 1.

Correct. we had two very bad drafts in a row. Must remain consistently good drafting. Easy to type, hard to do.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
When you view our team objectively..as well as our playoff run...as well as how other teams in the NFC were going to get better... it just seemed like that Super Bowl was our best chance to get a ring anytime soon.

The Lions and Packers gifted us those playoff wins based off youth/inexperience on their part. They both should have beat us. They were only going to get better this season.. and they did. Then you have the Vikings coming out of the blue. Seems they have a good Head Coach who is getting the best out of his players/situation. (I still don't trust Sam Darnold). The NFC North is hogging the Wildcard spots...and the Commanders are heading in the right direction. Going forward, we might have to rely on just winning the division to make the playoffs.

I completely agree. I got heat for saying this is probably as good as it gets with this regime and I simply responded wehave ZERO idea what next season brings. Well here we are. It sucks, but they made to many mistakes that caught up to them.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.

I don't simply because then you are without Armstead and Jimmie Ward. Also arent able to sign Charvarius Ward either.

The mistake was giving Jimmy the big deal in the first place. At least Brock has earned a sizable deal (not top qb money though).
Rams aren't crushing drafts. They've hit on a couple picks but they can't draft in the back 7 to save their lives. Stafford ability makes up for a lot of things. They aren't a contender.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.

I don't simply because then you are without Armstead and Jimmie Ward. Also arent able to sign Charvarius Ward either.

The mistake was giving Jimmy the big deal in the first place. At least Brock has earned a sizable deal (not top qb money though).

I know some view me as a Jimmy G hater.. but even back then I understood paying Jimmy. He looked like a combination of Aaron Rodgers (agility and making plays) and Tom Brady during those games in 2017. WHAT A TEASE!
[ Edited by Afrikan on Dec 13, 2024 at 2:07 PM ]
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I know some view me as a Jimmy G hater.. but even back then I understood paying Jimmy. He looked like a combination of Aaron Rodgers (agility and making plays) and Tom Brady during those games in 2017. WHAT A TEASE!

It made sense if you thought he was the guy. Problem was it was too small a sample to get a good read. We have gotten a good sample on Brock so we have a much better idea of his value.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Dec 13, 2024 at 2:09 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Rams aren't crushing drafts. They've hit on a couple picks but they can't draft in the back 7 to save their lives. Stafford ability makes up for a lot of things. They aren't a contender.
same dude saying the same fiction stories
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.

I don't simply because then you are without Armstead and Jimmie Ward. Also arent able to sign Charvarius Ward either.

The mistake was giving Jimmy the big deal in the first place. At least Brock has earned a sizable deal (not top qb money though).

Armstead and Ward were replaceable. AA is wildly overrated on this board. Ward was solid but not great. Huff took his spot easily.

You can't find a durable pass rushing DT who is great against the run like Buckner.

History is about to repeat in that we are giving a noodle arm QB a big contract next season.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Armstead and Ward were replaceable. AA is wildly overrated on this board. Ward was solid but not great. Huff took his spot easily.

You can't find a durable pass rushing DT who is great against the run like Buckner.

History is about to repeat in that we are giving a noodle arm QB a big contract next season.

That noodle arm has been far more successful.than the previous guy at running this offense. So then it becomes all about how much.

I just don't think Buckner makes up for the poor secondary play in 21 or the lack of defensive coaching in 23. I also wouldn't call Buckner great against the run.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by captveg:
Didn't Kittle say they did go over the playoff OT rules before the start of the season and that Juice simply didn't recall doing so?

No. AA said they found the rules from the in stadium scoreboard

Here it is: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/181376-remembers-explaining-playoff-overtime-players/

this is hilariously weak. in the immediate aftermath, players confirmed not only did they not know the rules, but it was never discussed. kyle even admits this! he says the team went over OT, but we didn't go over it with the players. so what george is doing, way after the fact, is known as being a good company man. that's who he is.

and btw, if you follow the link george says yea i'm 'pretty sure', so even he doesn't pound the table and say it happened.

The thing is, a coach is there to help keep his players prepared. Understanding that players do forget things... especially in stressful situations. Pat Mahomes and Chris Jones said after the game, that in the beginning of the week Andy Reid and the coaches went over the overtime rules again and what they planned to do, until it annoyed the players.

Even if what Kittle is saying is true, that's still Kyle doing his team a disservice, IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THEIR LIVES, by not reminding them about the new rules going into the game. And instead relying on them to remember what happened in the offseason. But yeah I don't believe Kittle, and agree he was just being a good company man.

all of this. and ppl say oh it's not a big deal. ok if it's not a big deal, why is george talking about it in the summer? why are we talking about it now? that indicates it is a big deal. after all, it's still being discussed. it's a red flag that we were not as prepared as we should have been.

As we said 10 months ago. odds are the SB defeat was the apex and the downfall for this regime. I say that statistically btw. Those are just how I see the odds.

This group had 3 good chances to win a super bowl. Its most likely over and a rebuild is in order. If Purdy didn't come from nowhere there is a good chance after the Lance debacle this would be Shanny's last season.

I think the two biggest mistakes this regime made was Thomas over Mahomes and trading Buckner.

I think keeping Buckner and Bosa together even with Purdy/JimmyG at QB would have brought it home last year and also that year we went against Rams in the NFCC. I truly do.

This is a very understated fact. Think Mike Ditka giving up the kitchen sink for Ricky Williams. It was the beginning of the end for him. Had Purdy not emerged, this would likely have been Kyle's last season here (if not last season)…
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by random49er:


Originally posted by DrEll:
Loved how McVay called a blitz in that last play, not even giving us a chance to air mail it.

you think Shanny would've done that at the end ?

McVay is a way better coach including the play calling. He has his team prepared and disciplined.

Did you hear during the broadcast of all the extra s**t McVay did to prepare for any weather changes... good or bad? That sideline reporter did not say we were doing the same thing. You would have thought she would mention "...and a similar approach is happening on the 49ers sideline". But nope.

Of course not. Remember 2 weeks ago against Buffalo? Our players didn't even wear the right cleats and were slipping all over.

this coaching staff is a joke when it comes to preparation…
Originally posted by DrEll:
This is a very understated fact. Think Mike Ditka giving up the kitchen sink for Ricky Williams. It was the beginning of the end for him. Had Purdy not emerged, this would likely have been Kyle's last season here (if not last season)…

Unlikely. Could have just as easily signed a player like Darnold (as they did) and had him be successful enough to compete. We've seen two examples of this now under Shanahan.
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