Brock Purdy vs Sam Darnold

Interesting conversation between Larry Krueger and Damon Bruce. Would you rather…

1) pay Brock Purdy 55-65 million per year for the next 4 years, or…

2) sign someone like Sam Darnold for 25-30 million per year and use the leftover money to sign or extend key players in order to keep the team competitive ?

some key points from both guys:

-if you're signing Darnold, then you're looking to trade Purdy for likely a couple of second and/or third rounders

-both guys agree that Purdy is not a HOF QB, but is a good second tier QB that can win IF he has the pieces around to help him succeed.

- both guys agree that irrespective of the team signing Brock or going with someone like Darnold, the team needs to stay active in the draft with the intent of finding a QB in the later rounds that could be a true franchise superstar quarterback.

-signing Brock to a lucrative deal this offseason means you will take a hit at talent somewhere and will likely lose some key players from your SB roster, and therefore the team overall may be less talented going forward.

-both guys agree that Brock will need to be signed. There is no option where Brock finishes out his current contract and then we possibly franchise tag him.

I personally agree Brock is not a HOF QB. He is a second tier good quarterback that can excel under the right circumstances. Those circumstances seem to be having a good supporting cast, good weather, and good coaching. With that said, I would rather not invest 20-25% of our cap into Brock Purdy, and pay for it by losing good/great players and hope he can overcome those losses. I'd rather going with option (2) and maybe have success with Sam Darnold by providing him a good supporting cast and look for a true franchise QB in the draft over the next few seasons.

any opinions ?

Raiders will wildly overpay Darnold out of desperation. Its their MO.

sam is in the mvp convo this season.

so why is sam taking 25m and brock 60m? that's a silly premise.

we will see how their deals come in this summer. i'll go on the books now that brock is not > 2x sam.

also we already punted on sam when we told him goodbye and picked brock over him. so the die is cast so to speak. it would be beyond weird to punt brock for sam. why not just bring jimmy back while we are at it? go for maximum awkward. trey lance also, he's a FA. these are fantasyland scenarios.

sigh, they let the wrong one go

if you want to do this accurately would you say do you want Brock at $45m or do you want Daniel Jones at 1 year $10m. but even in that, let's entertain jones for a second, well if he works for 1 year you gotta pay him. so you have to pay eventually no matter what. that's why i don't worry about this contract.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
sam is in the mvp convo this season.

so why is sam taking 25m and brock 60m? that's a silly premise.

we will see how their deals come in this summer. i'll go on the books now that brock is not > 2x sam.

also we already punted on sam when we told him goodbye and picked brock over him. so the die is cast so to speak. it would be beyond weird to punt brock for sam. why not just bring jimmy back while we are at it? go for maximum awkward. trey lance also, he's a FA. these are fantasyland scenarios.

Sam Darnold won't command 60 million like Purdy might (according to some analysts). He's going to be a free agent, and he didn't leave the team on bad terms. From what I remember, the 49ers extended him an offer, he just took a better one from Minnesota. So there's no rule that he doesn't want to come back here.

Second Krueger and Bruce think he's at the 25-30m level. Let's go a step higher and say he asks for 30-35m. Would you rather him Sam Darnold plus maybe an added proven veteran or two with the saved money, or would you rather give it all to Brock and expect him to do the same with less ?

Id argue you could do more with Sam Darnold and added talent instead of Brock with the same offense (minus Deebo, Juice and Aiyuk back for the second half of the season)…

They knew the attributes Darnold had compared to Brock and still kept Brock. It's almost like they just turned a blind eye to what Sam could do.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
sam is in the mvp convo this season.

so why is sam taking 25m and brock 60m? that's a silly premise.

we will see how their deals come in this summer. i'll go on the books now that brock is not > 2x sam.

also we already punted on sam when we told him goodbye and picked brock over him. so the die is cast so to speak. it would be beyond weird to punt brock for sam. why not just bring jimmy back while we are at it? go for maximum awkward. trey lance also, he's a FA. these are fantasyland scenarios.

Sam Darnold won't command 60 million like Purdy might (according to some analysts). He's going to be a free agent, and he didn't leave the team on bad terms. From what I remember, the 49ers extended him an offer, he just took a better one from Minnesota. So there's no rule that he doesn't want to come back here.

Second Krueger and Bruce think he's at the 25-30m level. Let's go a step higher and say he asks for 30-35m. Would you rather him Sam Darnold plus maybe an added proven veteran or two with the saved money, or would you rather give it all to Brock and expect him to do the same with less ?

Id argue you could do more with Sam Darnold and added talent instead of Brock with the same offense (minus Deebo, Juice and Aiyuk back for the second half of the season)…

straight up fiction. he's in the MVP running with a cannon and he can move. why would purdy coming off a worse season and not hitting FA command more? FA drives your value up not down. more suitors. brock has 1 suitor. he's under contract. the premise is absurd. i gave a cheap option, that's what darnold was when he signed with minny. he was 1 year 10 mil. we are just running back kyle and brock. so it's all fantasy convo.

my idea is sign brock, and add danny dimes as a QB2 or some other talented guy who may need a new situation. darnold is long gone. if we wanted to pick darnold over brock we should have done that when sam was here. kyle didn't do that.

Originally posted by bud49:
They knew the attributes Darnold had compared to Brock and still kept Brock. It's almost like they just turned a blind eye to what Sam could do.

I just will never understand this opinion. It's a complete re-writing of history based on Darnold's successful season this year. Darnold was not in a competition with Purdy. He was a high level backup signed as insurance in case Brock wasn't healthy. He was signed because Lance was useless. Nobody in their right mind would have started Darnold over a healthy Brock in either 2023 or the start of 2024, especially at 10-15x the price, lol.

Originally posted by bud49:
They knew the attributes Darnold had compared to Brock and still kept Brock. It's almost like they just turned a blind eye to what Sam could do.

wouldn't be the first time. we actually went into a year with a fully inverted depth chart of Lance, JG, Brock.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
sam is in the mvp convo this season.

so why is sam taking 25m and brock 60m? that's a silly premise.

we will see how their deals come in this summer. i'll go on the books now that brock is not > 2x sam.

also we already punted on sam when we told him goodbye and picked brock over him. so the die is cast so to speak. it would be beyond weird to punt brock for sam. why not just bring jimmy back while we are at it? go for maximum awkward. trey lance also, he's a FA. these are fantasyland scenarios.

Sam Darnold won't command 60 million like Purdy might (according to some analysts). He's going to be a free agent, and he didn't leave the team on bad terms. From what I remember, the 49ers extended him an offer, he just took a better one from Minnesota. So there's no rule that he doesn't want to come back here.

Second Krueger and Bruce think he's at the 25-30m level. Let's go a step higher and say he asks for 30-35m. Would you rather him Sam Darnold plus maybe an added proven veteran or two with the saved money, or would you rather give it all to Brock and expect him to do the same with less ?

Id argue you could do more with Sam Darnold and added talent instead of Brock with the same offense (minus Deebo, Juice and Aiyuk back for the second half of the season)…

straight up fiction. he's in the MVP running with a cannon and he can move. why would purdy coming off a worse season and not hitting FA command more? FA drives your value up not down. more suitors. brock has 1 suitor. he's under contract. the premise is absurd. i gave a cheap option, that's what darnold was when he signed with minny. he was 1 year 10 mil. we are just running back kyle and brock. so it's all fantasy convo.

my idea is sign brock, and add danny dimes as a QB2 or some other talented guy who may need a new situation. darnold is long gone. if we wanted to pick darnold over brock we should have done that when sam was here. kyle didn't do that.

What do you think Darnold gets ? 50 million per ? No way…

Originally posted by DrEll:
What do you think Darnold gets ? 50 million per ? No way…

He's getting way more than Geno Smith, especially on the open market. I'd expect him to get a minimum of $35 mil per, and possibly more with the cap going up.

Originally posted by DrEll:
What do you think Darnold gets ? 50 million per ? No way…

Raiders will pay him 40 easy. Giants might as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by DrEll:
What do you think Darnold gets ? 50 million per ? No way…

He's getting way more than Geno Smith, especially on the open market. I'd expect him to get a minimum of $35 mil per, and possibly more with the cap going up.

35m sounds about right. Almost half of what Brock would demand. Plus you have the leftover money to sign some FAs or extend guys like Greenlaw maybe Ward. I wouldn't mind that route instead of banking it all on Brock becoming an all time great at some point…

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Raiders will pay him 40 easy. Giants might as well.

Anyone claiming that a 27 year old QB coming off a Pro Bowl season is only going to get $25 million in free agency has seriously lost the plot.

He'll get paid big by someone and I wish him well.