Brock Purdy vs Sam Darnold

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Jefferson, Addison, and nailor would
be wasted here in SF or in MN with Purdy as their QB. If you want to believe he would be having the same success as Darnold……..ok. Good on you man. There's no way to actually find out so it's what one believes. I've seen damn near every vikes game
the last 2 years so I'll just beleive what my eyes are telling me. My wife's family who are lifelong Vikings season ticket holders think the same. I'll go with their opinion cause they would know better than you or I.

So no, you don't have any examples of throws Darnold has made that Purdy can't make.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Yea, you just don't know what you're looking at apparently. You apparently don't understand the concept of throwing somebody open and your nuts if you think the Brock throw to Kittle shows similar arm strength.

This kind of talent is exactly why Darnold was a high first round prospect. Brock doesn't need it to be effective, as we saw last year, but let's not pretend he has it to make ourselves feel better.

Jefferson is already wide open lol. Darnold just needs to lead him more and that safety isn't a factor. He underthrew it with all his natural talent. It's not that crazy of a play. He steps up, JJ is wide open, he flings it up, JJ makes a play. It's not that crazy

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Furlow:

If you want to argue that there are throws that Darnold can make that Purdy can't, you'll need to find a much better example than that one lol.

That shouldn't be an issue. Kyle said Darnold have one of the best arms he has ever seen, or words to that effect.

It isn't just about the arm orJim Druckenmiller would have a gold jacket.

Oh I agree 100%, just stating that I do realize that Darnold has a better arm than Purdy. So I was figuring that maximusdecimus, being a Vikings/Darnold fan now, would have some examples of Darnold throws this year that Purdy isn't able to make.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You're proving my point. Darnold is able to throw to wide open WR's multiple times per game because they are better WR's than what we have.

If you want to argue that there are throws that Darnold can make that Purdy can't, you'll need to find a much better example than that one lol.

I'm not the biggest arm strength guy, but there are examples every week. Didn't watch their game last night but the game winner versus the Hawks a week ago comes right to mind:

.@Vikings @Seahawks Sam Darnold livin large playing great. 3 more beautiful TD throws to get to 13-2 and sustain the longest W streak in NFL #Skol #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/nWn84nZ9tF

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 23, 2024

@ End of video.

Brock can be highly effective when things are going well. We've seen it. He simply does not have plays like this in his bag.

I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Jefferson is already wide open lol. Darnold just needs to lead him more and that safety isn't a factor. He underthrew it with all his natural talent. It's not that crazy of a play. He steps up, JJ is wide open, he flings it up, JJ makes a play. It's not that crazy

I can't add anything to my last post that wouldn't just be re-stated here.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

Doesn't matter. The only thing you need a QB for is to throw deep. Deep throws or bust - that's the way to win.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

Well yes of course. While I agree that Purdy can't make THAT particular throw, there are A LOT more throws that Purdy makes that Darnold can't. Any of the layered throws over the LB's but in front of the DB's; I am simply not trusting Darnold on those. Purdy makes them routinely.

Purdy is also obsessed with preparation as we've heard from countless coaches and teammates (including Darnold), and that type of passion and dedication is what's needed for long term, sustained success. That's the thing with Purdy; a lot of his strengths are more nuanced and not as visible. Where he is lacking are things that are more visible. So to the casual fan he doesn't look like much.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Well yes of course. While I agree that Purdy can't make THAT particular throw, there are A LOT more throws that Purdy makes that Darnold can't. Any of the layered throws over the LB's but in front of the DB's; I am simply not trusting Darnold on those. Purdy makes them routinely.

Purdy is also obsessed with preparation as we've heard from countless coaches and teammates (including Darnold), and that type of passion and dedication is what's needed for long term, sustained success. That's the thing with Purdy; a lot of his strengths are more nuanced and not as visible. Where he is lacking are things that are more visible. So to the casual fan he doesn't look like much.

I think what he is as a player is up in the air. He clearly has skills and a level of toughness (poise in the pocket) that a lot of QBs don't necessarily have.

It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:

I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

If Brock can make this throw, they're pretty much the same air yards from the throw spot, off his back foot while getting hit, what makes you guys think he couldn't do the same thing with all his momentum moving forward? Honest question

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. So that's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

This argument isn't getting any smarter. We had a QB1 when we signed Darnold. That QB1 went on to have an MVP quality year. Teams play one QB.

The night and day difference between Min and SF was that their starter got injured and ours remained healthy. That's it.

I'd take darnold at a discount over purdy at $50+. I like purdy a lot, but Darnold had a first round grade for a reason. It's all Monday morning b******t though because at the time the decision was made I didn't even blink an eye at the idea of darnold moving on. If I had to choose right now i suppose I'd lean towards darnold since he'll probably be cheaper. Purdy really hasn't done anything great this year….. not sure any other qb could have done better though

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Uh Darnold was always second fiddle last season and there is no way he was better than Brock. He left in free agency purely his choice how is that so hard to understand?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If Brock can make this throw, they're pretty much the same air yards from the throw spot, off his back foot while getting hit, what makes you guys think he couldn't do the same thing with all his momentum moving forward? Honest question

Brock Purdy to CMC caps off a 71-yard Niners drive.

Purdy has a rushing and passing touchdown mid way through the 2nd quarter.

🎥 @NFL | @49ers pic.twitter.com/9o098AALoF

— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) December 11, 2022

Brock Purdy to CMC caps off a 71-yard Niners drive.

Purdy has a rushing and passing touchdown mid way through the 2nd quarter.

🎥 @NFL | @49ers pic.twitter.com/9o098AALoF

— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) December 11, 2022

lol. He is planted my man. Notice both feet stuck in the ground? Every QB in the NFL can make that throw. What's impressive is his willingness to make the throw and take the hit and deliver an accurate ball away from the defender (the only similarity to Sam's throw).