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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

If Brock can make this throw, they're pretty much the same air yards from the throw spot, off his back foot while getting hit, what makes you guys think he couldn't do the same thing with all his momentum moving forward? Honest question

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You're looking at a different throw. Smokey is referring to the last throw in the video that he posted. Darnold is climbing the pocket and off balance, and has to sort of side arm it down the sideline.

Edit: This one. Starts at 1:04

[ Edited by Furlow on Dec 30, 2024 at 1:28 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
You're looking at a different throw. Smokey is referring to the last throw in the video that he posted. Darnold is climbing the pocket and off balance, and has to sort of side arm it down the sideline.

He's talking about the right play, lol. It's just bad analysis of it.
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
You're looking at a different throw. Smokey is referring to the last throw in the video that he posted. Darnold is climbing the pocket and off balance, and has to sort of side arm it down the sideline.

He's talking about the right play, lol. It's just bad analysis of it.

Oh you're right, he is. Lol. Yeah not even close to the same type of throw.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
lol. He is planted my man. Notice both feet stuck in the ground? Every QB in the NFL can make that throw. What's impressive is his willingness to make the throw and take the hit and deliver an accurate ball away from the defender (the only similarity to Sam's throw).

I guess I just don't think that Sam throw is that crazy. Brock's not able to step into his throw at all. He's leaning back and he chucks and ducks it about 40 yards. He doesn't get everything into that throw and it goes just as far as Sam with a running start
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I guess I just don't think that Sam throw is that crazy. Brock's not able to step into his throw at all. He's leaning back and he chucks and ducks it about 40 yards. He doesn't get everything into that throw and it goes just as far as Sam with a running start

It is though, and while Brock fell away on his follow through (to protect himself obviously) he is planted when he throws it. That's the kind of thing he deserves credit for. His willingness to stand in there and take a shot. Sam may have bailed on that play.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If Brock can make this throw, they're pretty much the same air yards from the throw spot, off his back foot while getting hit, what makes you guys think he couldn't do the same thing with all his momentum moving forward? Honest question


Let's remember that was Brock's first start as qb1 too

Sam's mechanics improved quite a bit after being on the Niners..look at how he was on the Jets compared to now. Learning from what he did from Brock/Kyle helped him fs and he credits them for it. He plays with more refinement, quicker processing, cleaner mechanics. This talk about how Shanny ruins qbs is simply ridiculous. (Sorry SD. Lol.).
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I guess I just don't think that Sam throw is that crazy. Brock's not able to step into his throw at all. He's leaning back and he chucks and ducks it about 40 yards. He doesn't get everything into that throw and it goes just as far as Sam with a running start

It is though, and while Brock fell away on his follow through (to protect himself obviously) he is planted when he throws it. That's the kind of thing he deserves credit for. His willingness to stand in there and take a shot. Sam may have bailed on that play.

Being planted doesn't mean you're getting all of you're power behind the throw though. He doesnt even step into it. Darnold gets a whole damn running start lol. Idk I guess I'm just not as impressed as you are by that throw
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Dec 30, 2024 at 1:40 PM ]
The hilarious thing is, the talking points about Purdy is that he is about to be paid a s**t-ton.....but I don't hear anything regarding an equally monstrous deal with Darnold. If he's 'a star'....shouldn't you be hearing all kinds of chatter about 50/250 and such?

Secondly.....every year you see some dumb/fluke type season from a team here or there....what I realize is that the Vikings have had 3 of them in the last 7 or 8 seasons..This years Vikes rank 12th on O, 16th on D....does that scream '14-2?' That's basically a 9/10 win type team at best that has rode turnovers to their success.....and from everything that I've seen, a b******t Son Of Sam. The dude pulls this outta his rear for the first time, and people want to label him a star/better than Purdy/etc. The other seasons from the Vikes that were mirages was the one from just 2 years ago....that got bounced by Danny Dimes in the playoffs.

The third? That Vikes team that got throttled by the Eagles in their SB run.....with Casey Kasem at QB. A guy who, much like Darnold, pulled off a fluke year, but the reality is that he was a backup and that's it. That is all Darnold is ATM, and anyone who thinks the light has turned on for him after 5+ years in the NFL simply doesn't know the history of the league.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Being planted doesn't mean you're getting all of you're power behind the throw though. He doesnt even step into it. Darnold gets a whole damn running start lol. Idk I guess I'm just not as impressed as you are by that throw

I think you probably need to learn a little more about QB mechanics honestly. From describing Brocks throw as 'off his back foot' to thinking a running start makes Darnold's throw easier… just isn't it.
Maybe we should wait and see how Darnold does in the post season before we compare him and our boy!
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Maybe we should wait and see how Darnold does in the post season before we compare him and our boy!

Should be exciting. Have 4 really good teams in the NFC. Sucks we aren't one of them.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Being planted doesn't mean you're getting all of you're power behind the throw though. He doesnt even step into it. Darnold gets a whole damn running start lol. Idk I guess I'm just not as impressed as you are by that throw

I think you probably need to learn a little more about QB mechanics honestly. From describing Brocks throw as 'off his back foot' to thinking a running start makes Darnold's throw easier… just isn't it.

It's not a Jordan love fade away one leg in the air backfoot, but I do consider that a back foot. He hits it and continues to fall back into a chuck and duck through the throw. That's fine if you don't call it backfoot, but he surely doesn't get his all into the throw
The thing is football is a game of luck and inches. Sam, I am playing way over my head, is having a year where things are bouncing in his direction, his receivers are making the plays and he is capitalizing on it. The dude makes boneheaded decisions and is always a throw away from an INT. When you think about it, last year Brock had things going his way. Should be interceptions were dropped, defenders missed opportunities and he had his receivers making out of this world catches. He capitalized on his good luck. This year, if it can go wrong it does.. not just him the whole team. Let's slow down these calls to bring back a veteran journeyman who is having a career year.. the real Sam I am will be back before you know it.
  • mayo49
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I don't know what happened to Darnold, but it must have just clicked for him. He looks like a totally different quarterback.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
The thing is football is a game of luck and inches. Sam, I am playing way over my head, is having a year where things are bouncing in his direction, his receivers are making the plays and he is capitalizing on it. The dude makes boneheaded decisions and is always a throw away from an INT. When you think about it, last year Brock had things going his way. Should be interceptions were dropped, defenders missed opportunities and he had his receivers making out of this world catches. He capitalized on his good luck. This year, if it can go wrong it does.. not just him the whole team. Let's slow down these calls to bring back a veteran journeyman who is having a career year.. the real Sam I am will be back before you know it.

Is the bolded true? I'll admit I haven't been overly tuned in this year
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