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Originally posted by NYniner85:
No one truthfully thought Sam was a good long-term starting QB and if you did you had some ulterior motive based on some dumb biased take.

Anyone who actually watched the Vikings this year saw how it went down. They were near the top of the league in all kind of offensive metrics based off their first 15-20 snaps. After that s**t fell off a cliff. heavily based on play-action and staying ahead of the chains. KOC is very similar to Kyle in play-calling and getting the most out of their QB. Sam was doing his best Jimmy imitation this yr.

hopefully this season helps SF land a higher comp pick then what we thought we were gonna get.

Brock > Sam

The pick is projected to be a 5th rounder but it seems like it should be higher since Darnold started all year and had a pretty good season.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
IDGAF, always knew Purdy, my only question is - we will get a 4th rd comp????

If Sam gets a PFWA award or an all pro nod it's a lock. Without it harder to say.
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
The fact that this thread was ever created is the funniest part of all of it.

He did have 35 TDs & a 102 QB rating this year.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
IDGAF, always knew Purdy, my only question is - we will get a 4th rd comp????

If Sam gets a PFWA award or an all pro nod it's a lock. Without it harder to say.

ah like comeback player. Which imo would be fair in his case. He had a great year.
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Can't wait for Darnold to get blasted and exposed instantly in the playoffs (where he has literally never even take a snap, btw) and we can move on from this discussion lol

Called it!

His receivers were locked up. He had no chance with that OL, they were punked. He doesn't run so he was a sitting duck back there.

Those receivers (that includes arguably the best player in football) and that OL that helped him finally have a decent season? That one?

Oh my goodness no. You all can't seriously suddenly be making these kinds of excuses for Darnold lol

We're talking about yesterday not the season. It was what it was, they got spanked defensively and offensively. Darnold was just a victim of it all.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Jan 14, 2025 at 9:30 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by pdc20:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Would you pay $50M for Dirty Purdy or $35M for Darnold?

You give 50 millions to Purdy before his agent tells him that another team is willing to give him 55.

lol this.

If Purdy is seriously willing to take $50M your reaction if you're the front office should be "for how many years? Let's sign this thing right now!" because right now, that's a bargain. He'll probably get $60M minimum unless he's willing to do us a favor.

I guess in 5 years you'll be saying $100 mil is a bargain.

Idk about in 5 years, but yes, that's kind of how the salary cap works. It's like inflation but with bigger numbers.

If a QB contract isn't a bargain today, it likely will be in 1-2 years. If it IS a bargain today, then it will be dirt cheap in 1-2 years.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Jan 14, 2025 at 8:20 AM ]
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by pdc20:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Would you pay $50M for Dirty Purdy or $35M for Darnold?

You give 50 millions to Purdy before his agent tells him that another team is willing to give him 55.

lol this.

If Purdy is seriously willing to take $50M your reaction if you're the front office should be "for how many years? Let's sign this thing right now!" because right now, that's a bargain. He'll probably get $60M minimum unless he's willing to do us a favor.

I guess in 5 years you'll be saying $100 mil is a bargain.

Idk about in 5 years, but yes, that's kind of how the salary cap works. It's like inflation but with bigger numbers.

If a QB contract isn't a bargain today, it likely will be in 1-2 years. If it IS a bargain today, then it will be dirt cheap in 1-2 years.

Have you noticed that the QB salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap. The idea that NFL QBs should be the higheest paid people in the entire country is ludicrous. I know it's what the market is paying but it needs to stop. It can't keep escalating at that rate. We're starting to see other positions asking where's my money and there isn't enough left over to pay a DB $15 mil If you pay one then they'll all want that same amount.

My solution has been to make QBs salaries exempt from the cap. Let the billionaire owners pay them ridiculous salaries but at least it won't be at the expense of the rest of the roster. Then they can afford to pay a quality backup as well.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by pdc20:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Would you pay $50M for Dirty Purdy or $35M for Darnold?

You give 50 millions to Purdy before his agent tells him that another team is willing to give him 55.

lol this.

If Purdy is seriously willing to take $50M your reaction if you're the front office should be "for how many years? Let's sign this thing right now!" because right now, that's a bargain. He'll probably get $60M minimum unless he's willing to do us a favor.

I guess in 5 years you'll be saying $100 mil is a bargain.

Idk about in 5 years, but yes, that's kind of how the salary cap works. It's like inflation but with bigger numbers.

If a QB contract isn't a bargain today, it likely will be in 1-2 years. If it IS a bargain today, then it will be dirt cheap in 1-2 years.

Have you noticed that the QB salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap. The idea that NFL QBs should be the higheest paid people in the entire country is ludicrous. I know it's what the market is paying but it needs to stop. It can't keep escalating at that rate. We're starting to see other positions asking where's my money and there isn't enough left over to pay a DB $15 mil If you pay one then they'll all want that same amount.

My solution has been to make QBs salaries exempt from the cap. Let the billionaire owners pay them ridiculous salaries but at least it won't be at the expense of the rest of the roster. Then they can afford to pay a quality backup as well.

Oddly enough I think what would fix it, is getting rid of the cap. Maybe a system like MLB?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by pdc20:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Would you pay $50M for Dirty Purdy or $35M for Darnold?

You give 50 millions to Purdy before his agent tells him that another team is willing to give him 55.

lol this.

If Purdy is seriously willing to take $50M your reaction if you're the front office should be "for how many years? Let's sign this thing right now!" because right now, that's a bargain. He'll probably get $60M minimum unless he's willing to do us a favor.

I guess in 5 years you'll be saying $100 mil is a bargain.

Idk about in 5 years, but yes, that's kind of how the salary cap works. It's like inflation but with bigger numbers.

If a QB contract isn't a bargain today, it likely will be in 1-2 years. If it IS a bargain today, then it will be dirt cheap in 1-2 years.

Have you noticed that the QB salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap. The idea that NFL QBs should be the higheest paid people in the entire country is ludicrous. I know it's what the market is paying but it needs to stop. It can't keep escalating at that rate. We're starting to see other positions asking where's my money and there isn't enough left over to pay a DB $15 mil If you pay one then they'll all want that same amount.

My solution has been to make QBs salaries exempt from the cap. Let the billionaire owners pay them ridiculous salaries but at least it won't be at the expense of the rest of the roster. Then they can afford to pay a quality backup as well.

IIRC it was proposed a couple months ago that the NFL have a separate salary cap for the QB position. I have no idea if that will fix the issue or not. It might lessen the gap between, say, a team that has Mahomes and a team that has another franchise QB, but it will likely widen the gap between a team that has a franchise QB and one that doesn't.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Have you noticed that the QB salaries are rising at a faster rate than the cap. The idea that NFL QBs should be the higheest paid people in the entire country is ludicrous. I know it's what the market is paying but it needs to stop. It can't keep escalating at that rate. We're starting to see other positions asking where's my money and there isn't enough left over to pay a DB $15 mil If you pay one then they'll all want that same amount.

My solution has been to make QBs salaries exempt from the cap. Let the billionaire owners pay them ridiculous salaries but at least it won't be at the expense of the rest of the roster. Then they can afford to pay a quality backup as well.

Larry Bird exemption.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
IIRC it was proposed a couple months ago that the NFL have a separate salary cap for the QB position. I have no idea if that will fix the issue or not. It might lessen the gap between, say, a team that has Mahomes and a team that has another franchise QB, but it will likely widen the gap between a team that has a franchise QB and one that doesn't.

That gap will exist regardless. Can't mitigate that.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Oddly enough I think what would fix it, is getting rid of the cap. Maybe a system like MLB?

MLB is garbage. What about four teams have a legitimate chance of winning annually because of no salary cap.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
IIRC it was proposed a couple months ago that the NFL have a separate salary cap for the QB position. I have no idea if that will fix the issue or not. It might lessen the gap between, say, a team that has Mahomes and a team that has another franchise QB, but it will likely widen the gap between a team that has a franchise QB and one that doesn't.

That gap will exist regardless. Can't mitigate that.

The gap may still exist but at least you won't have one player taking up 15-20% of the cap. I don't care how good the QB is he can't win on his own. Without a decent O line he's going to have problems . Without a couple good receivers he'll struggle. We all know that football is the ultimate team sport. The owners seem to have forgotten that and we see one young B after anther beaten to a pulp and failing because of the poor surrounding cast. They end up as TV analysts in 5 years.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Andy Dalton with a few clunkers on there
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Oddly enough I think what would fix it, is getting rid of the cap. Maybe a system like MLB?

MLB is garbage. What about four teams have a legitimate chance of winning annually because of no salary cap.

That's because of cheap ass owners and most MLB owners aren't multi billionaires, like they are in the NFL.
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