49ers sign TE Luke Farrell

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

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Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

He was TE #3 on a horrific Jags team, how good can he be?

He also had 3 head coaches and multiple OCs under the Baalke regime. It's an underrated deterrent for player development - he now gets some stability wi the 49ers.

I don't love the value of the contract, but it finally gives us stability after we have had patch work signings for our blocking TE role. And given Juice's departure, maybe Farrell will player a bigger role than expected.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

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Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

He was TE #3 on a horrific Jags team, how good can he be?

He also had 3 head coaches and multiple OCs under the Baalke regime. It's an underrated deterrent for player development - he now gets some stability wi the 49ers.

I don't love the value of the contract, but it finally gives us stability after we have had patch work signings for our blocking TE role. And given Juice's departure, maybe Farrell will player a bigger role than expected.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

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He was TE #3 on a horrific Jags team, how good can he be?

He also had 3 head coaches and multiple OCs under the Baalke regime. It's an underrated deterrent for player development - he now gets some stability wi the 49ers.

I don't love the value of the contract, but it finally gives us stability after we have had patch work signings for our blocking TE role. And given Juice's departure, maybe Farrell will player a bigger role than expected.

Great post

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

+ Show all quotes
He was TE #3 on a horrific Jags team, how good can he be?

He also had 3 head coaches and multiple OCs under the Baalke regime. It's an underrated deterrent for player development - he now gets some stability wi the 49ers.

I don't love the value of the contract, but it finally gives us stability after we have had patch work signings for our blocking TE role. And given Juice's departure, maybe Farrell will player a bigger role than expected.

I see it as 3 years 11 mil guaranteed. That comes to around 3.5ish mil per year which is actually under the value of a TE 2 which is maybe around 4.5 mil? Thats my spin on it to make me sleep better lol...

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

He was TE #3 on a horrific Jags team, how good can he be?

+ Show all quotes
He also had 3 head coaches and multiple OCs under the Baalke regime. It's an underrated deterrent for player development - he now gets some stability wi the 49ers.

I don't love the value of the contract, but it finally gives us stability after we have had patch work signings for our blocking TE role. And given Juice's departure, maybe Farrell will player a bigger role than expected.

I see it as 3 years 11 mil guaranteed. That comes to around 3.5ish mil per year which is actually under the value of a TE 2 which is maybe around 4.5 mil? Thats my spin on it to make me sleep better lol...

That's the lowest of the low - he'll likely have incentives like snaps played %, receiving milestones, games played, workout bonuses, etc. I don't know what the average full % realization is for NFL contracts with base + guaranteed + performance incentives, but I think a safe assumption is base + guaranteed + 50% of incentives realized.

Using that model, he'd be closer to $16M over 3 years. Which is $5.3M per year - closely aligned to what Juice was projected to make this season before he got released.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

Kyle must like his potential a lot and see him as a valuable piece in his new offense. It is a lot of money for a completely unproven player. At the end of the day I suppose Kyle and John don't think we are in a rebuilding mode but rather pay this guy than Juice.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

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Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

Kyle must like his potential a lot and see him as a valuable piece in his new offense. It is a lot of money for a completely unproven player. At the end of the day I suppose Kyle and John don't think we are in a rebuilding mode but rather pay this guy than Juice.

Kyle no longer involved in personnel matters, Jed has him locked in a room creating plays for 8 hours each day and then security walks him to his car. He can no longer make friends with players, he was heard screaming "I love Joey Bosa" while crying on his daily escort to his car last night.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

+ Show all quotes
Kyle must like his potential a lot and see him as a valuable piece in his new offense. It is a lot of money for a completely unproven player. At the end of the day I suppose Kyle and John don't think we are in a rebuilding mode but rather pay this guy than Juice.

Kyle no longer involved in personnel matters, Jed has him locked in a room creating plays for 8 hours each day and then security walks him to his car. He can no longer make friends with players, he was heard screaming "I love Joey Bosa" while crying on his daily escort to his car last night.

I am not sure that Kyle is no longer involved in personnel matters, but even if he isn't he still would have significant input on the pieces he wants. We are not in the Jim Harbaugh and Baalke era in which Baalke signed players Harbaugh didn't want.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

Kyle must like his potential a lot and see him as a valuable piece in his new offense. It is a lot of money for a completely unproven player. At the end of the day I suppose Kyle and John don't think we are in a rebuilding mode but rather pay this guy than Juice.

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Kyle no longer involved in personnel matters, Jed has him locked in a room creating plays for 8 hours each day and then security walks him to his car. He can no longer make friends with players, he was heard screaming "I love Joey Bosa" while crying on his daily escort to his car last night.

I am not sure that Kyle is no longer involved in personnel matters, but even if he isn't he still would have significant input on the pieces he wants. We are not in the Jim Harbaugh and Baalke era in which Baalke signed players Harbaugh didn't want.

Lynch is sitting in a office with Paraag & Jed, they just keep repeating "DO,IT!" or "NOT DOING IT!"
whenever he asks about free agent signings.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gonna be the new juice?

Cutting Juice certainly points to it. Kid isn't much of a receiver and recognized for his blocking.

Kyle must like his potential a lot and see him as a valuable piece in his new offense. It is a lot of money for a completely unproven player. At the end of the day I suppose Kyle and John don't think we are in a rebuilding mode but rather pay this guy than Juice.

Kyle no longer involved in personnel matters, Jed has him locked in a room creating plays for 8 hours each day and then security walks him to his car. He can no longer make friends with players, he was heard screaming "I love Joey Bosa" while crying on his daily escort to his car last night.

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I am not sure that Kyle is no longer involved in personnel matters, but even if he isn't he still would have significant input on the pieces he wants. We are not in the Jim Harbaugh and Baalke era in which Baalke signed players Harbaugh didn't want.

Lynch is sitting in a office with Paraag & Jed, they just keep repeating "DO,IT!" or "NOT DOING IT!"
whenever he asks about free agent signings.

They might ban what Kyle wants. But they are not going to give an unproven player big money if Kyle said he doesn't want this player.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He's been relegated to play designer, no say on roster moves.