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Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by genus49:
The funny thing is we just released a bunch of underperforming players from a team that went 6-11 last year.

Greenlaw is the only guy who would've been great to keep because we don't have a legit replacement for him.

We also just watched the Rams do this type of reset literally 2 years ago. EERILY similar situation.

They go to the SB. Following season suffer some injuries and go 5-12.
In the offseason they trade away some of their big names and release some others(including Leonard Floyd)
They sign no big name or big $ free agents
They attack the draft even without a 1st round pick to show for that 5-12 season. They make 14 picks and add a bunch of UDFAs

They come back with big contributions by their rookies and go 10-7 looking really strong going into the postseason.

We also just watched the Bills do this...last year.
They cut a bunch of their vets(including Leonard Floyd). Add a bunch of dead cap in the process.
They add almost nobody of big name, $ in free agency.

We all know how close they were to going to the SB.

I keep seeing this point but the amount of starters we've lost, along with the lack of depth seems more severe. Both Stafford and Allen are top 5 QBs that elevates the offense, Purdy hasn't quite proven that and we are about to mary him for 5yrs. 2026 is the plan to regroup but this might end badly if we don't hit this draft or develop "young" players and we're left with an aging TE, LT, RB, WR with two torn ligaments with an "above average" QB

Agreed. People again are delusional if they think Purdy is better than Stafford right now. He was playing great in the playoffs this year it was pretty insane watching some of this throws.
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by genus49:
The funny thing is we just released a bunch of underperforming players from a team that went 6-11 last year.

Greenlaw is the only guy who would've been great to keep because we don't have a legit replacement for him.

We also just watched the Rams do this type of reset literally 2 years ago. EERILY similar situation.

They go to the SB. Following season suffer some injuries and go 5-12.
In the offseason they trade away some of their big names and release some others(including Leonard Floyd)
They sign no big name or big $ free agents
They attack the draft even without a 1st round pick to show for that 5-12 season. They make 14 picks and add a bunch of UDFAs

They come back with big contributions by their rookies and go 10-7 looking really strong going into the postseason.

We also just watched the Bills do this...last year.
They cut a bunch of their vets(including Leonard Floyd). Add a bunch of dead cap in the process.
They add almost nobody of big name, $ in free agency.

We all know how close they were to going to the SB.

I keep seeing this point but the amount of starters we've lost, along with the lack of depth seems more severe. Both Stafford and Allen are top 5 QBs that elevates the offense, Purdy hasn't quite proven that and we are about to mary him for 5yrs. 2026 is the plan to regroup but this might end badly if we don't hit this draft or develop "young" players and we're left with an aging TE, LT, RB, WR with two torn ligaments with an "above average" QB

Agreed. People again are delusional if they think Purdy is better than Stafford right now. He was playing great in the playoffs this year it was pretty insane watching some of this throws.

Purdy doesn't have to be better than Stafford for the situations to be comparable. Comparable, not exactly the same. Of course we're going to have to hit on these draft picks… Webzone's gonna be insane that weekend
The 49ers had one of the top rosters for several years. 4 NFC title games. Two SBs . Still unable to win that final game. Those players got older or too expensive. Meanwhile teams like Detroit and Philly built rhtheir teams with young studs. The NFL is constantly changing so the Niners needed to do this.

Fans were upset about not being able to win the big one. Now some are going to be upset about trying to change course and get younger. You can never please everyone.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
we can get younger an cheaper while still acquiring playmakers. those two things can happen at the same time lets not act like they cant.

Bingo. Doesn't have to be the top end FA either.

ya I think they could have added in 2-3 quality FAs to help keep talent level up while still saving money an dumping alota the bloated contracts we just did. its too late for that the good talent in FA is all gone by now. I think maliek Collin getting cut was a mistake he was at times our best DT last year an would have excelled with more help around him. and didn't cost a ton of money. I wonder if they asked him to take a pay cut an he refused.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by genus49:
The funny thing is we just released a bunch of underperforming players from a team that went 6-11 last year.

Greenlaw is the only guy who would've been great to keep because we don't have a legit replacement for him.

We also just watched the Rams do this type of reset literally 2 years ago. EERILY similar situation.

They go to the SB. Following season suffer some injuries and go 5-12.
In the offseason they trade away some of their big names and release some others(including Leonard Floyd)
They sign no big name or big $ free agents
They attack the draft even without a 1st round pick to show for that 5-12 season. They make 14 picks and add a bunch of UDFAs

They come back with big contributions by their rookies and go 10-7 looking really strong going into the postseason.

We also just watched the Bills do this...last year.
They cut a bunch of their vets(including Leonard Floyd). Add a bunch of dead cap in the process.
They add almost nobody of big name, $ in free agency.

We all know how close they were to going to the SB.

I keep seeing this point but the amount of starters we've lost, along with the lack of depth seems more severe. Both Stafford and Allen are top 5 QBs that elevates the offense, Purdy hasn't quite proven that and we are about to mary him for 5yrs. 2026 is the plan to regroup but this might end badly if we don't hit this draft or develop "young" players and we're left with an aging TE, LT, RB, WR with two torn ligaments with an "above average" QB

Agreed. People again are delusional if they think Purdy is better than Stafford right now. He was playing great in the playoffs this year it was pretty insane watching some of this throws.

You glossed over my response. You want to talk about delusional? Delusional is people refusing to understand an obvious comparison because they're too eager to bash the team.

First of all let's ignore the fact that Stafford had his RB1 playing the whole year and keeping defense at bay. Second what throw save maybe the big one to Nacua late in that Eagles game was so special that Purdy can't make that throw?

Matt Stafford is in the downward trajectory of his career the gap between him and Purdy(who is a lot more mobile) is not what it used to be so pretending Stafford was this elite QB who glued the whole Rams offense together is the delusion.

There is 0 doubt in my mind that if Purdy was an earlier draft pick nobody would be making some of these statements about him. Matt Stafford wasn't the QB in 2023/2024 that he was in 2021. He's still great and he's better than Brock but the gap is not big at all and Purdy has plenty of talent and ability to lead a similar rebound to what the Rams saw in 2023. Especially since Brock's apparent "bad season" is comparable to the season Stafford had in that rebound year and he wasn't missing a ton of his offensive weapons.
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