49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Probably the biggest boom or bust prospect of this draft but many of guys here are too weak to admit that the bust potential in him is as big as his boom potential......the same guys that before week 1 last year were saying that CMC was gonna be fine.

This is a 50/50 pick.

I'm not mad or happy about this pick

He does have upside. But you want more of a sure thing at #11 overall. A QB was taken in the top pick. So we really had a top 10ish pick at #11. Since we aren't currently looking for a QB. A project with lack of production is a highly risky pick there. But par for the course with Shany and Lynch. They are certainly no Howie Roseman.

I've warmed up to the pick since it was made. You seem to be neglecting some of the whys when it comes to productivity.

He was moved around as was needed by Smart, instead of playing in his best position. He also did so through injury. Refused to even miss practice. He's 20 with plenty of room to grow; especially under this coaching staff. When he was 18, he was eating Paris Johnson's lunch to get to Stroud. There is proven ability there, it was just mitigated by other factors. He came into this past season considered to be a top 5 pick.

Who would have been your pick? Because, I can guarantee you, as someone who preferred other DL, you will get pushback. Be it Nolen, Harmon, Green, Pearce, Walker or Campbell by Roseman. There was no sure thing on the board.

I have plenty of bones to pick with SL (it might even resurface on day 2) but at the end of the day this is not one of them.

more footage.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't get this pick at all.

* 2022 sacks - 4.5, 2023 sacks - 4.5, 2024 sacks -5.0. = UNDERWHELMING
* 2022 TFL - 6.5, 2023 TFL - 6.5, 2024 TFL - 8.5. = OK
* Size - 6'5" 260 lbs. 34 3/8" arms. 10 1/4 Hands. = VERY GOOD
* 40 time - 4.77 at his pro day. = UNDERWHELMING
* Program - Georgia = BLUE CHIP

He has the size. With length of arms and big hands. Great program to come from. But not that sudden or fast or twitchy of an athlete. I would expect a better athlete at #11 overall. Where is the PRODUCTION? Because he doesn't have any. Very underwhelming IMO.

I can't possibly believe this was the best player on the board at #11. Looks like a typical over drafted, reach on position of need. A Shany / Lynch special. I really wish we had Howie Roseman. He runs circles around the league. While we have a clown show.

man, if you are going to use stats you should contextualize them,... if not, stats are useless

he got those sacks (4,5 - 4,5 - 5) playing just around 400 snaps each season,.... and he played the last season with an ankle injury bothering him,... just for comparison, Abdul Carter (the unanimously considered best DE prospect in this class with elite traits and elite everything) had 13 sacks in almost 800 snaps,... Mykel Williams would have had 10 sacks if he had played that amount of snaps,... not that far

and he's still very very young,... with lot of room to grow

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Probably the biggest boom or bust prospect of this draft but many of guys here are too weak to admit that the bust potential in him is as big as his boom potential......the same guys that before week 1 last year were saying that CMC was gonna be fine.

This is a 50/50 pick.

I'm not mad or happy about this pick

He does have upside. But you want more of a sure thing at #11 overall. A QB was taken in the top pick. So we really had a top 10ish pick at #11. Since we aren't currently looking for a QB. A project with lack of production is a highly risky pick there. But par for the course with Shany and Lynch. They are certainly no Howie Roseman.

completely disagree with this take,.... he's already the best edge settler in this DE class,... as both Lynch and Shanahan said,.... and that's something this team was urgently needing,... and that's something which makes his floor very high as an elite edge settler and run stopper,... and IMO his ceiling is the sky when he further develops his pass rushing abilities (which he already has)

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Probably the biggest boom or bust prospect of this draft but many of guys here are too weak to admit that the bust potential in him is as big as his boom potential......the same guys that before week 1 last year were saying that CMC was gonna be fine.

This is a 50/50 pick we like it or not.

I'm not mad or happy about this pick

His floor is very high. Probably the highest of all the DEs in the draft besides Carter.

I'm not surprised, I'm glad we didn't go for Shemar Stewart, but I still have my doubts. Going to lean into how young he is, and hope his ankle affected him a lot but is behind him now. For the record I'd have taken Walker and I think he's a better player. We'll see.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not just assuming that I am.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Probably the biggest boom or bust prospect of this draft but many of guys here are too weak to admit that the bust potential in him is as big as his boom potential......the same guys that before week 1 last year were saying that CMC was gonna be fine.

This is a 50/50 pick we like it or not.

I'm not mad or happy about this pick

There are no guarantees when It comes to the draft. We just have to hope and pray we drafted the right guy at the end of the day .

I'm liking this pick, though tbh. We'll see how it plays out.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Probably the biggest boom or bust prospect of this draft but many of guys here are too weak to admit that the bust potential in him is as big as his boom potential......the same guys that before week 1 last year were saying that CMC was gonna be fine.

This is a 50/50 pick we like it or not.

I'm not mad or happy about this pick

Completely disagree. He will be an elite run defender day 1. That's his floor.

When John Lynch talked about what they want at the DE position in his press conference, I thought that clearly they would love to draft Mykel Williams.
Really solid choice. Look this draft is not a great draft at the top so someone like MW is a good start.
He's great against the run and the Niners badly need guys that defend well against the run. Of course he has to work on the pass rush but you see flashs of him being maybe a dominant pass rusher one day. He's super young and played a lot of games in College.
I'm happy with this choice. They didn't overthink this.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Completely disagree. He will be an elite run defender day 1. That's his floor.

Yes a 3 down player at 20 years old is useful already, if he improves his pass rush he'll be more than worth pick 11.

Originally posted by replikante:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just don't get this pick at all.

* 2022 sacks - 4.5, 2023 sacks - 4.5, 2024 sacks -5.0. = UNDERWHELMING
* 2022 TFL - 6.5, 2023 TFL - 6.5, 2024 TFL - 8.5. = OK
* Size - 6'5" 260 lbs. 34 3/8" arms. 10 1/4 Hands. = VERY GOOD
* 40 time - 4.77 at his pro day. = UNDERWHELMING
* Program - Georgia = BLUE CHIP

He has the size. With length of arms and big hands. Great program to come from. But not that sudden or fast or twitchy of an athlete. I would expect a better athlete at #11 overall. Where is the PRODUCTION? Because he doesn't have any. Very underwhelming IMO.

I can't possibly believe this was the best player on the board at #11. Looks like a typical over drafted, reach on position of need. A Shany / Lynch special. I really wish we had Howie Roseman. He runs circles around the league. While we have a clown show.

man, if you are going to use stats you should contextualize them,... if not, stats are useless

he got those sacks (4,5 - 4,5 - 5) playing just around 400 snaps each season,.... and he played the last season with an ankle injury bothering him,... just for comparison, Abdul Carter (the unanimously considered best DE prospect in this class with elite traits and elite everything) had 13 sacks in almost 800 snaps,... Mykel Williams would have had 10 sacks if he had played that amount of snaps,... not that far

and he's still very very young,... with lot of room to grow

simply watching his highlight reel alone you can see his was cleaning up. Most his sacks some other player disrupted the play and he got the sack. Not all sacks are created equal. He only had a few sacks, they are all on his current highlight reel.

PFF has his pass rush win rate at 10.5%

Abdul Carter had a winrate of 24% (PFF)....no one is getting these two confused as pass-rushers.

Of course Williams spent a good chunk of time at DT...so for comparison Harmon had an 18% win rate as a DT (again PFF)

I like Williams, but I think anyone going into this thinking he is a traditional edge rusher is approaching this from the wrong direction.

If folks actually watch the film, you see traits and nuance. He's got the measurables and he's only 20.

this guy isn't a boom or bust player. Like others said his floor is a base down edge setting monster. His floor is pretty damn high as an edge rusher.

it was either Nolen or Williams for me at 11 and edge is just more valuable.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
They cant hear you over the Howie roseman lovefest

Yet they don't realize that the eagles just live Georgina DL prospects also

Originally posted by Dshearn:
simply watching his highlight reel alone you can see his was cleaning up. Most his sacks some other player disrupted the play and he got the sack. Not all sacks are created equal. He only had a few sacks, they are all on his current highlight reel.

PFF has his pass rush win rate at 10.5%

Abdul Carter had a winrate of 24% (PFF)....no one is getting these two confused as pass-rushers.

Of course Williams spent a good chunk of time at DT...so for comparison Harmon had an 18% win rate as a DT (again PFF)

I like Williams, but I think anyone going into this thinking he is a traditional edge rusher is approaching this from the wrong direction.

Williams was lining up all over the DL. Same thing with Walker at Georgia. Scheme matters and what you ask guys to do. He's far from a finished product and that's okay.

carter is a better pass rusher, but the way he won in college isn't always as sustainable in the NFL. You gotta have power to be consistent as an EDGE. Thats a concern with him.

I agree he's not a traditional edge right now. He's just a good defensive lineman. They're gonna get someone later that's more of that transitional edge and can be used in certain packages. I could see them liking David Walker or someone like that on day 2/3

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
They cant hear you over the Howie roseman lovefest

Yet they don't realize that the eagles just live Georgina DL prospects also

Williams was a top 5 draft prospect heading into this season by a ton of folks. Played all yr on a s**t ankle and he dropped to us….if they eagles drafted him they'd all be kissing Howies ass.

I hate the Campbell pick. Messed up shoulder and he just not instinctive as a LBer. He's not my LB1, I'd take Schwesinger over him all day.