49ers 2025 Salary Cap Thread, 2025 Cap Room=$38,480,453 as of 4/4/25

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Viperboy:
What were the actual terms of Greenlaw's 3 / 35 deal ?

Ended up being 3yr $31.5M, so $10.5M APY, they tried to get him to pull out of his agreement, guess whatever we offered wasn't good enough, I would have done this deal, here's the breakdown on OTC, https://overthecap.com/player/dre-greenlaw/7939

I wish we could have convinced him to stay, and why we didn't offer a multi-year deal, he only got $11.5M fully GTD, just weird all around.

Thanks
For players,coaches and fans this is the one that was a gut punch…gotta get this done and if it didn't work out so be it…smdh

Originally posted by Viperboy:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Viperboy:
What were the actual terms of Greenlaw's 3 / 35 deal ?

Ended up being 3yr $31.5M, so $10.5M APY, they tried to get him to pull out of his agreement, guess whatever we offered wasn't good enough, I would have done this deal, here's the breakdown on OTC, https://overthecap.com/player/dre-greenlaw/7939

I wish we could have convinced him to stay, and why we didn't offer a multi-year deal, he only got $11.5M fully GTD, just weird all around.

Thanks
For players,coaches and fans this is the one that was a gut punch…gotta get this done and if it didn't work out so be it…smdh

Yes this is the gut punch loss, Hufanga at $15M a yr no thanks, Banks at $19.25M a yr HELL NO, Moore at $15M a yr HELL NO, Ward at $18M a yr I'd do but he was gone after the tragedy, so I don't hold anything against anyone, he wanted a fresh start, and Deebo whatever the never lived up to the deal he got, as for Dre, $10.5M for 3yrs, makes no sense, only $13.5M GTD $11.5M is fully GTD, this is the loss that hurts the most, I wonder what we offered him to try to get him to pull out of the deal, no issue with Mason deal, not paying a RB2 $5M+, Collins & Floyd I might have kept for the time being until TC, well just Floyd, since Collins had a option bonus due, guys like Ya-Sin, Yiadom. Dobbs, Allen are all replaceable.

I also don't see the issues with the roster, it's still very talented, have a lot of young talent, still a talented core, deep roster IMO, but that's me, I like some of these signings, ST unit needed to be addressed, now need to fix the IOL & IDL, plus an EDGE opposite Bosa, speedy guy, he's never had someone opposite him since the Dee Ford debacle, 1 good yr, then injured rest of deal.

What's the over/under for number of new players making the 53? I think there will be at least 15 new faces.

More deals official.

Patrick Taylor Jr. - 1yr $1.17M($300K GTD, only $1.03M counts)

Siran Neal - 2yr $4M, $1.255M(gtd), $1.355M base salaries, $1M signing bonus(prorated over you guessed it 5yrs, so 3 void years), $170K per game roster bonuses, $25K workout bonuses, also has $200K NLTBE incentives for All-Pro honors.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I thought there was a massive dead money cap hit if he retired or was cut before his new 3 year deal was up?

There is. 35.7 mil. 39.4 to keep. So cutting him would clear 3.7 for 26.

If he plays out the string and goes after 26 it's a 21 mil hit to 27 cap.

Pretty much we are effed in any situation with Trent outside of him playing a handful more years. I think a lot will depend on how he feels this year and success we have (or don't have)

if we can get back to spankin ass and he's healthy, I can see him pulling off 2 more years but he pretty much forced the organization into a terrible contract

They should have traded him.

4 void years for an aging fullback? sell the f**king team York

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Viperboy:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Viperboy:
What were the actual terms of Greenlaw's 3 / 35 deal ?

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Ended up being 3yr $31.5M, so $10.5M APY, they tried to get him to pull out of his agreement, guess whatever we offered wasn't good enough, I would have done this deal, here's the breakdown on OTC, https://overthecap.com/player/dre-greenlaw/7939

I wish we could have convinced him to stay, and why we didn't offer a multi-year deal, he only got $11.5M fully GTD, just weird all around.

Thanks
For players,coaches and fans this is the one that was a gut punch…gotta get this done and if it didn't work out so be it…smdh

Yes this is the gut punch loss, Hufanga at $15M a yr no thanks, Banks at $19.25M a yr HELL NO, Moore at $15M a yr HELL NO, Ward at $18M a yr I'd do but he was gone after the tragedy, so I don't hold anything against anyone, he wanted a fresh start, and Deebo whatever the never lived up to the deal he got, as for Dre, $10.5M for 3yrs, makes no sense, only $13.5M GTD $11.5M is fully GTD, this is the loss that hurts the most, I wonder what we offered him to try to get him to pull out of the deal, no issue with Mason deal, not paying a RB2 $5M+, Collins & Floyd I might have kept for the time being until TC, well just Floyd, since Collins had a option bonus due, guys like Ya-Sin, Yiadom. Dobbs, Allen are all replaceable.

I also don't see the issues with the roster, it's still very talented, have a lot of young talent, still a talented core, deep roster IMO, but that's me, I like some of these signings, ST unit needed to be addressed, now need to fix the IOL & IDL, plus an EDGE opposite Bosa, speedy guy, he's never had someone opposite him since the Dee Ford debacle, 1 good yr, then injured rest of deal.

Yea this hurts. Actions speak louder than words though. If they really wanted him they would've gave him a better deal.

With every contract accounted for, the 49ers are $35,190,972 under their 2025 adjusted salary cap of $340,553,682 with 73 players signed.

QB Mac Jones - 2yr $7M, $1.17M base salary in 2025(fully GTD), $2.81M base salary in 2026($1M GTD), $2.24M signing bonus, $1.41M option bonus in 2026, $340K per game roster bonuses, $100K workout bonuses, $600K incentives.

RB Patrick Taylor Jr. - 1yr $1.17M($300K GTD, only $1.03M counts)

FB Kyle Juszcyzk - 2yr $7.5M, $1.47M base salary(fully GTD) in 2025, $1.5M base salary(fully GTD) in 2026, $1.98M signing bonus, $1.75M option bonus due in 2026(fully GTD), $400K per game roster bonuses, $100K workout bonuses, $250K incentive either for All-Pro or Pro Bowl.

WR Demarcus Robinson - 2yr $8M, $1.255M base salary(fully GTD) in 2025, $1.435M base salary(fully GTD), $2.32M signing bonus(prorates over 5yrs), $2.09M option bonus due by April 1, 2026(prorates over 5yrs), $425K per game roster bonuses(fully GTD each year), $50K workout bonuses, $2.144M 2025 cap number, $2.792M 2026 cap number, $3.064M dead money in 2027.

TE Luke Farrell - 3yr $15.75M, $1.17M, $1.35M, & $1.39M base salaries, $4.32M signing bonus, $2.65M option bonus due in 2026, $2.94M option bonus due in 2027, $510K per game roster bonuses, $50K workout bonuses, cap numbers of $2.544M, $3.254M, $4.232M, & a $5.67M dead money hit in 2028

LG/C Ben Bartch - 1yr $1,322,500, $1.17M base salary($1.03M counts & is fully GTD), $142,500 signing bonus, $25K workout bonus, $1,197,500 cap number.

DT Kevin Givens - 1yr $2.05M, $2.025M base salary($1.17M counts, entire $2.025M is fully GTD), $25K signing bonus, $1.195M cap number for 2025.

WLB Luke Gifford - 1yr $1.8M, $1.2M base salary($300K fully GTD), $300K signing bonus, $200K per game roster bonus, $100K workout bonus, $1,788,235 2025 cap number due to him being active 16 out of 17 games.

MLB Curtis Robinson - 1yr $1.17M, $1.17M base salary(none GTD)

CB Tre Brown - 1yr $1.7M, $1.17M base salary($165K fully GTD), $135K signing bonus, $170K per game roster bonus, $25K workout bonus, $1.66M cap number in 2025 since he was active 13 out of 17 games.

CB Siran Neal - 2yr $4M, $1.255M base salary(fully GTD), $1.355M base salary in 2026, $1M signing bonus(prorates over 5yrs), $170K per game roster bonuses, $25K workout bonuses, and $200K NLTBE incentive for All-Pro honors.

FS Richie Grant - 1yr $1.5M, $1.17M base salary($210K fully GTD), $135K signing bonus, $170K per game roster bonus, $25K workout bonus, $1.5M cap number for 2025, also has $500K in NLTBE incentives.

FS/CB Jason Pinnock - 1yr $2.2M, $1.17M base salary(fully GTD), $980K signing bonus, $50K workout bonus(fully GTD), deal is fully GTD, $2.2M cap number for 2025.

LS Jon Weeks - 1yr $1,422,500, $1.17M base salary($1.03M counts none GTD), $167,500 signing bonus, $1,197,500 cap number.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
I thought there was a massive dead money cap hit if he retired or was cut before his new 3 year deal was up?

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There is. 35.7 mil. 39.4 to keep. So cutting him would clear 3.7 for 26.

If he plays out the string and goes after 26 it's a 21 mil hit to 27 cap.

Pretty much we are effed in any situation with Trent outside of him playing a handful more years. I think a lot will depend on how he feels this year and success we have (or don't have)

if we can get back to spankin ass and he's healthy, I can see him pulling off 2 more years but he pretty much forced the organization into a terrible contract

They should have traded him.

Trade him? Why? This team is depleted, nor is there window closed, the reported "demise" is a bunch of BS, Eagles lost 7 starters in FA, don't see Eagles fans, or the media saying bad things about them, and they have a $51M a yr QB, highest paid RB, two WRs making over $25M a yr, high paid TE, 3 high paid OL, just don't get it, makes no sense to trade anyone, unless they don't want to be here like Deebo, trading and doing a rebuild makes zero sense.

Originally posted by socalfan21:
4 void years for an aging fullback? sell the f**king team York

FYI, every team does this now, it's not like the 49ers are the only team who does void years for nearly every multi year deal, every team does, Vikings, all there multi-year deals have void years, hell even Mason's deal has 3 void years, they have void years in Aaron Jones's deal, and he's in his 30s, the Eagles do it to, look at Hurts deal, it has void years, people have no clue how the salary cap works, void years are the norm.

Great job as always with the cap numbers. I think we are just fine & getting younger in the process. Need some help for Bosa on the dline & draft well this year. Go 49ers!

Originally posted by tohara3:
Great job as always with the cap numbers. I think we are just fine & getting younger in the process. Need some help for Bosa on the dline & draft well this year. Go 49ers!

Our schedule is custom-made for a bunch of rookies coming in and hitting their stride by mid-season.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
4 void years for an aging fullback? sell the f**king team York

FYI, every team does this now, it's not like the 49ers are the only team who does void years for nearly every multi year deal, every team does, Vikings, all there multi-year deals have void years, hell even Mason's deal has 3 void years, they have void years in Aaron Jones's deal, and he's in his 30s, the Eagles do it to, look at Hurts deal, it has void years, people have no clue how the salary cap works, void years are the norm.

Some teams use it a lot more than others. And some dont have any contracts with void years. We are near the top for void years and its a real issue.

This is data from Feb. of this year:
1. PHI: $390.4M
2. SF: $204.1M
3. CLE: $187.5M
4. NO: $112.1M
5. JAX:$106.55M
6. NYJ: $87.6M
7. MIA: $70.6M
8. DAL: $62.755M
9. TB: $56.1M
10. DET: $52.1M
11. BAL: $50.8M
12. HOU: $47.09M
13. MIN: $47.08M
14. DEN: $40.3M
15. GB: 33.9M
16. BUF: $33.1M
17. WAS: $29.556M
18. CAR: $26.98M
19. SEA: $$21.435M
20. LAR: $21.15M
21. LV: $12.1M
22. ARI: $10.587M
23. CIN: $9M (Joe Burrow)
24. LAC: $8.87M (Khalil Mack)
25. IND: $7.2M (DeForest Buckner)
26. ATL: $5.6M
27. TEN: $4.6M (Arden Key)
28. KC: $1.86M (DeAndre Hopkins via trade; Mahomes has empty void years)

Patirots and Giants have no contracts with void years.
Bears and Stealers have no cap dollars in void years. (contracts acquired via trade)

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
4 void years for an aging fullback? sell the f**king team York

FYI, every team does this now, it's not like the 49ers are the only team who does void years for nearly every multi year deal, every team does, Vikings, all there multi-year deals have void years, hell even Mason's deal has 3 void years, they have void years in Aaron Jones's deal, and he's in his 30s, the Eagles do it to, look at Hurts deal, it has void years, people have no clue how the salary cap works, void years are the norm.

Some teams use it a lot more than others. And some dont have any contracts with void years. We are near the top for void years and its a real issue.

This is data from Feb. of this year:
1. PHI: $390.4M
2. SF: $204.1M
3. CLE: $187.5M
4. NO: $112.1M
5. JAX:$106.55M
6. NYJ: $87.6M
7. MIA: $70.6M
8. DAL: $62.755M
9. TB: $56.1M
10. DET: $52.1M
11. BAL: $50.8M
12. HOU: $47.09M
13. MIN: $47.08M
14. DEN: $40.3M
15. GB: 33.9M
16. BUF: $33.1M
17. WAS: $29.556M
18. CAR: $26.98M
19. SEA: $$21.435M
20. LAR: $21.15M
21. LV: $12.1M
22. ARI: $10.587M
23. CIN: $9M (Joe Burrow)
24. LAC: $8.87M (Khalil Mack)
25. IND: $7.2M (DeForest Buckner)
26. ATL: $5.6M
27. TEN: $4.6M (Arden Key)
28. KC: $1.86M (DeAndre Hopkins via trade; Mahomes has empty void years)

Patirots and Giants have no contracts with void years.
Bears and Stealers have no cap dollars in void years. (contracts acquired via trade)

Notice who's #1? Philadelphia, and no Eagles fans seem to be b***hing about that, the media says nothing when they lose 7 key starters from their SB team, but god forbid the 49ers lose a bunch of average starters now it's the sudden downfall of the 49ers, even though there isn't one, 2024 was a bad year, injury after injury, people in Philly wanted Siriani fired before last season, they didn't believe in Hurts either, fans that is, now all of a sudden cause of Barkley, they're the media darlings, I just laugh it off, all this doom and gloom from 49ers fans, and they know who they are, they're overreacting big time, when the 49ers extend Brock, Kittle, Jauan, Warner, their deals won't hurt the cap, the reason why teams keep reloading is the use of void years, and good drafting, some are better than others, also the Aiyuk deal doesn't hurt the 49ers cap, they can afford to keep him, hell as I've said the Eagles APYs for Hurts, AJ Brown, Smith, Barkley, Lane Johnson, Mailata, Dickerson are all $20M+ a year.

As for some teams who don't do void years like we do, they have this year, Washington & Minnesota did it, looking at the Vikings cap, easy for me since my Dad was a Vikings fan, they're almost $20M over a projected $300M cap for 2026, the deals they did that don't have void years, but have high, and I mean HIGH 2026 cap numbers will be restructured, hell Kinlaw in Washington got 2 or 3 void years from Adam Peters.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
4 void years for an aging fullback? sell the f**king team York

+ Show all quotes
FYI, every team does this now, it's not like the 49ers are the only team who does void years for nearly every multi year deal, every team does, Vikings, all there multi-year deals have void years, hell even Mason's deal has 3 void years, they have void years in Aaron Jones's deal, and he's in his 30s, the Eagles do it to, look at Hurts deal, it has void years, people have no clue how the salary cap works, void years are the norm.

Some teams use it a lot more than others. And some dont have any contracts with void years. We are near the top for void years and its a real issue.

This is data from Feb. of this year:
1. PHI: $390.4M
2. SF: $204.1M
3. CLE: $187.5M
4. NO: $112.1M
5. JAX:$106.55M
6. NYJ: $87.6M
7. MIA: $70.6M
8. DAL: $62.755M
9. TB: $56.1M
10. DET: $52.1M
11. BAL: $50.8M
12. HOU: $47.09M
13. MIN: $47.08M
14. DEN: $40.3M
15. GB: 33.9M
16. BUF: $33.1M
17. WAS: $29.556M
18. CAR: $26.98M
19. SEA: $$21.435M
20. LAR: $21.15M
21. LV: $12.1M
22. ARI: $10.587M
23. CIN: $9M (Joe Burrow)
24. LAC: $8.87M (Khalil Mack)
25. IND: $7.2M (DeForest Buckner)
26. ATL: $5.6M
27. TEN: $4.6M (Arden Key)
28. KC: $1.86M (DeAndre Hopkins via trade; Mahomes has empty void years)

Patirots and Giants have no contracts with void years.
Bears and Stealers have no cap dollars in void years. (contracts acquired via trade)

Notice who's #1? Philadelphia, and no Eagles fans seem to be b***hing about that, the media says nothing when they lose 7 key starters from their SB team, but god forbid the 49ers lose a bunch of average starters now it's the sudden downfall of the 49ers, even though there isn't one, 2024 was a bad year, injury after injury, people in Philly wanted Siriani fired before last season, they didn't believe in Hurts either, fans that is, now all of a sudden cause of Barkley, they're the media darlings, I just laugh it off, all this doom and gloom from 49ers fans, and they know who they are, they're overreacting big time, when the 49ers extend Brock, Kittle, Jauan, Warner, their deals won't hurt the cap, the reason why teams keep reloading is the use of void years, and good drafting, some are better than others, also the Aiyuk deal doesn't hurt the 49ers cap, they can afford to keep him, hell as I've said the Eagles APYs for Hurts, AJ Brown, Smith, Barkley, Lane Johnson, Mailata, Dickerson are all $20M+ a year.

As for some teams who don't do void years like we do, they have this year, Washington & Minnesota did it, looking at the Vikings cap, easy for me since my Dad was a Vikings fan, they're almost $20M over a projected $300M cap for 2026, the deals they did that don't have void years, but have high, and I mean HIGH 2026 cap numbers will be restructured, hell Kinlaw in Washington got 2 or 3 void years from Adam Peters.

And after all that you still don't understand that regardless of the PR spin, real fans just want to win a Super Bowl and are not sentimentally attached to the people that aren't getting that done be it coaches or F/O personnel.

We can talk about the eagles fans all we want, they won a ring last year. If you want folks to view the current head coach and front office as if they are Bill Walsh & Eddie D they will have to earn that by winning multiple titles.

until then… excuses in the form of PR Spin is what we will keep hearing about.