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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
According to the front page article, we outbid the Broncos, but Dre wanted a fresh start, idk why, he was beloved in SF, core player, this is the ONLY loss that hurts this team IMO, man I hate this, I wish he would have stayed, obvious he wanted to be LB1 but Warner is LB1 and is gonna cash in this yr or next yr with a $20M+ a year extension, so looks like the 49ers were willing to open the wallet for Greenlaw, sucks, but wish Dre the best, except against us, nothing bad on him, just they lose, we win.

Dre's father said it best, if you stay in SF you'll be Pippin with Fred being Jordan. He told his son to go be Jordan, can't hate on that.

No hate at all against Dre, go wherever you feel you're both being paid, & a team leader, just think he could have been one here, behind Bosa & Fred, idk, just hurts still, none of the other losses bothers me anywhere near losing Greenlaw.

It is interesting that a player that was drafted by us, and was here for so long, didn't want to return.

That now makes at least two players Deebo & Dre that didn't want to be here.
I do hate on it. Pippen is hugely respected and won championships. That's how you do it in a team sport.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
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Dre's father said it best, if you stay in SF you'll be Pippin with Fred being Jordan. He told his son to go be Jordan, can't hate on that.

No hate at all against Dre, go wherever you feel you're both being paid, & a team leader, just think he could have been one here, behind Bosa & Fred, idk, just hurts still, none of the other losses bothers me anywhere near losing Greenlaw.

It is interesting that a player that was drafted by us, and was here for so long, didn't want to return.

That now makes at least two players Deebo & Dre that didn't want to be here.

Greenlaw definitely wanted to return. There comes a point where you realize the team doesn't value you and you move on.

While the 49ers ultimately exceeded Denver's offer, they also could have signed him well before free agency began. And, according to league sources, their initial offers to Greenlaw fell well short of what he ultimately was given.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6244720/2025/03/31/dre-greenlaw-49ers-pursuit-broncos/

The 49ers got a sweet deal when Greenlaw extended in 2022. They've had plenty of time to get an extension done. They simply undervalued Greenlaw until it was too late. Paraag undervaluing players isn't a new or unique story.
[ Edited by Typecast on Apr 7, 2025 at 1:22 PM ]
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
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No hate at all against Dre, go wherever you feel you're both being paid, & a team leader, just think he could have been one here, behind Bosa & Fred, idk, just hurts still, none of the other losses bothers me anywhere near losing Greenlaw.

It is interesting that a player that was drafted by us, and was here for so long, didn't want to return.

That now makes at least two players Deebo & Dre that didn't want to be here.

Greenlaw definitely wanted to return. There comes a point where you realize the team doesn't value you and you move on.

While the 49ers ultimately exceeded Denver's offer, they also could have signed him well before free agency began. And, according to league sources, their initial offers to Greenlaw fell well short of what he ultimately was given.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6244720/2025/03/31/dre-greenlaw-49ers-pursuit-broncos/

The 49ers got a sweet deal when Greenlaw extended in 2022. They've had plenty of time to get an extension done. They simply undervalued Greenlaw until it was too late. Paraag undervaluing players isn't a new or unique story.

No way did the 49ers didn't want him back, and no guarantee he signs a deal, especially when he tore his achilles, if we did that, people would be b***hing about him missing almost the entire season, same s**t they give Aiyuk for, and if Dre really wanted back he should have accepted the higher offer from the 49ers, no deals could have been completed till that Wednesday at 4pm EST, if he wanted to be a 49er, he would have backed out of the DEN deal, Kendricks did the same to us last year, fact is he wants to be LB1, and a team leader over LB2, still a team leader & more money makes no sense, I thought he & Fred were tight, you'd think the guy would have just accepted the 49ers offer when they flew to him, that's on Dre, not us, he clearly wanted to explore FA, he didn't get a chance to do the 2yr extension.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
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It is interesting that a player that was drafted by us, and was here for so long, didn't want to return.

That now makes at least two players Deebo & Dre that didn't want to be here.

Greenlaw definitely wanted to return. There comes a point where you realize the team doesn't value you and you move on.

While the 49ers ultimately exceeded Denver's offer, they also could have signed him well before free agency began. And, according to league sources, their initial offers to Greenlaw fell well short of what he ultimately was given.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6244720/2025/03/31/dre-greenlaw-49ers-pursuit-broncos/

The 49ers got a sweet deal when Greenlaw extended in 2022. They've had plenty of time to get an extension done. They simply undervalued Greenlaw until it was too late. Paraag undervaluing players isn't a new or unique story.

No way did the 49ers didn't want him back, and no guarantee he signs a deal, especially when he tore his achilles, if we did that, people would be b***hing about him missing almost the entire season, same s**t they give Aiyuk for, and if Dre really wanted back he should have accepted the higher offer from the 49ers, no deals could have been completed till that Wednesday at 4pm EST, if he wanted to be a 49er, he would have backed out of the DEN deal, Kendricks did the same to us last year, fact is he wants to be LB1, and a team leader over LB2, still a team leader & more money makes no sense, I thought he & Fred were tight, you'd think the guy would have just accepted the 49ers offer when they flew to him, that's on Dre, not us, he clearly wanted to explore FA, he didn't get a chance to do the 2yr extension.

  1. Lynch and Shanahan wanted him back. Paraag didn't.
  2. I don't care what fans think. Every time something happens, some group from the fanbase cries about it.
  3. He could have backed out of it, but he didn't. Greenlaw isn't Kendricks.
  4. The whole LB1 vs LB2, Pippen vs. Jordan, is all PR in an effort to turn the page and move forward.
  5. We don't even know if the offer Lynch and Kyle was real. I happen to think they flew to Texas to beg Greenlaw to give them time to charm Paraag into caving and giving him an extension plus a little extra for the process. Greenlaw took the real offer that already existed.
[ Edited by Typecast on Apr 8, 2025 at 4:03 PM ]
Originally posted by Typecast:
  1. Lynch and Shanahan wanted him back. Paraag didn't.
  2. I don't care what fans think. Every time something happens, some group from the fanbase cries about it.
  3. He could have backed out of it, but he didn't. Greenlaw isn't Kendricks.
  4. The whole LB1 vs LB2, Pippen vs. Jordan, is all PR in an effort to turn the page and move forward.
  5. We don't even know if the offer Lynch and Kyle was real. I happen to think they flew to Texas to beg Greenlaw to give them time to charm Paraag into caving and giving him an extension plus a little extra for the process. Greenlaw took the real offer that already existed.

Got anything to support this? Like, for instance, when did Lynch and Shanahan ever have to "charm" Marathe into agreeing a contract?
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Typecast:
  1. Lynch and Shanahan wanted him back. Paraag didn't.
  2. I don't care what fans think. Every time something happens, some group from the fanbase cries about it.
  3. He could have backed out of it, but he didn't. Greenlaw isn't Kendricks.
  4. The whole LB1 vs LB2, Pippen vs. Jordan, is all PR in an effort to turn the page and move forward.
  5. We don't even know if the offer Lynch and Kyle was real. I happen to think they flew to Texas to beg Greenlaw to give them time to charm Paraag into caving and giving him an extension plus a little extra for the process. Greenlaw took the real offer that already existed.

Got anything to support this? Like, for instance, when did Lynch and Shanahan ever have to "charm" Marathe into agreeing a contract?

It's my opinion based on their recent track record of having to get involved late in negotiations to clean up Marathe's messes.
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Typecast:
  1. Lynch and Shanahan wanted him back. Paraag didn't.
  2. I don't care what fans think. Every time something happens, some group from the fanbase cries about it.
  3. He could have backed out of it, but he didn't. Greenlaw isn't Kendricks.
  4. The whole LB1 vs LB2, Pippen vs. Jordan, is all PR in an effort to turn the page and move forward.
  5. We don't even know if the offer Lynch and Kyle was real. I happen to think they flew to Texas to beg Greenlaw to give them time to charm Paraag into caving and giving him an extension plus a little extra for the process. Greenlaw took the real offer that already existed.

Got anything to support this? Like, for instance, when did Lynch and Shanahan ever have to "charm" Marathe into agreeing a contract?

It's my opinion based on their recent track record of having to get involved late in negotiations to clean up Marathe's messes.

Oh. Well, here is a thought. If someone, Lynch for example, says something and no reliable source (Greenlaw, for example) contradicts him, you are just stating your personal antipathy by accusing him of lying. There are certain "sources" who will say almost anything about the team to put it in a bad light, If even they don't join in, you are probably in the realms of fantasy.

By the way, your para 2 above equally applies to you.
Originally posted by Typecast:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Typecast:
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Greenlaw definitely wanted to return. There comes a point where you realize the team doesn't value you and you move on.

While the 49ers ultimately exceeded Denver's offer, they also could have signed him well before free agency began. And, according to league sources, their initial offers to Greenlaw fell well short of what he ultimately was given.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6244720/2025/03/31/dre-greenlaw-49ers-pursuit-broncos/

The 49ers got a sweet deal when Greenlaw extended in 2022. They've had plenty of time to get an extension done. They simply undervalued Greenlaw until it was too late. Paraag undervaluing players isn't a new or unique story.

No way did the 49ers didn't want him back, and no guarantee he signs a deal, especially when he tore his achilles, if we did that, people would be b***hing about him missing almost the entire season, same s**t they give Aiyuk for, and if Dre really wanted back he should have accepted the higher offer from the 49ers, no deals could have been completed till that Wednesday at 4pm EST, if he wanted to be a 49er, he would have backed out of the DEN deal, Kendricks did the same to us last year, fact is he wants to be LB1, and a team leader over LB2, still a team leader & more money makes no sense, I thought he & Fred were tight, you'd think the guy would have just accepted the 49ers offer when they flew to him, that's on Dre, not us, he clearly wanted to explore FA, he didn't get a chance to do the 2yr extension.

  1. Lynch and Shanahan wanted him back. Paraag didn't.
  2. I don't care what fans think. Every time something happens, some group from the fanbase cries about it.
  3. He could have backed out of it, but he didn't. Greenlaw isn't Kendricks.
  4. The whole LB1 vs LB2, Pippen vs. Jordan, is all PR in an effort to turn the page and move forward.
  5. We don't even know if the offer Lynch and Kyle was real. I happen to think they flew to Texas to beg Greenlaw to give them time to charm Paraag into caving and giving him an extension plus a little extra for the process. Greenlaw took the real offer that already existed.

Paraag doesn't run the 49ers you realize that right? It's not up to Paraag on who gets signed or cut, he's just there to help with the salary cap, if the 49ers wanted Dre back, that means as an organization they wanted him back, Dre chose to leave, not the over way around, he left, left more money on the table to be LB1 in Denver, and as for your 5th point, that's pure BS & assumption, they don't need to charm Paraag, if Jed signs off on it, then they do it, Again Dre chose to leave, it's that simple, it's not rocket science here.
Oh and Greenlaw isn't Kendricks, you're right, but remember when Frank Gore backed out of a deal the year or year after he was released? Gore is a HOF player who did that, so it happens, but to make the assumption that they flew to see Dre, just to "charm" Paraag is laughable, stop reading Grant Cohn, I know the guy, he does this for clicks, it's his schtick.
Originally posted by joeknows:
I do hate on it. Pippen is hugely respected and won championships. That's how you do it in a team sport.

It's an ego driven reason. What's best for you as a whole and what's best for your ego isn't always aligned .Sometimes the grass isn't greener and sometimes a player isn't the same when they're in the main role.

not all great coordinators make great coaches. I wish him the best but I think he made a poor decision.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 9, 2025 at 1:28 PM ]
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