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2008-09 San Antonio Spurs Thread
Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM
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Mar 17, 2009 at 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mar 17, 2009 at 7:33 AM
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Originally posted by dobophile:
Can we move all this Bynum crap to the Lakers thread?
I need to start spamming the Lakers thread.
Don't you know when you mention anything laker related, they will instantly hijack your thread and turn it into theirs? The best thing to do is just move on, or they just keep going.
Mar 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by TX9R:Originally posted by dobophile:
Can we move all this Bynum crap to the Lakers thread?
I need to start spamming the Lakers thread.
Don't you know when you mention anything laker related, they will instantly hijack your thread and turn it into theirs? The best thing to do is just move on, or they just keep going.
Oh boohoo.
Mar 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM
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^^^ Case in point. Some people are just seemingly desperate for attention and think emoticons somehow add credence to whatever BS they spout. Carry on, I'm sure somewhere, someone just mentioned a laker in another thread to horn in on.
Mar 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by TX9R:
^^^ Case in point. Some people are just seemingly desperate for attention and think emoticons somehow add credence to whatever BS they spout. Carry on, I'm sure somewhere, someone just mentioned a laker in another thread to horn in on.
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Mar 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
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Excuse me, Spurs fans...but please take a #. Us Dubs' fans are bigger Laker Haters than you are! LOL
(Ensuing Dobo post: "You guys aren't relevant...blah blah blah")
Just f**kin with you guys...enjoy the playoffs. We'll be watching from the lottery in See-cock-us, NJ.
(Ensuing Dobo post: "You guys aren't relevant...blah blah blah")
Just f**kin with you guys...enjoy the playoffs. We'll be watching from the lottery in See-cock-us, NJ.
[ Edited by GiGalo9er on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM ]
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
If anything, the Spurs are younger and deeper this season. Last season, the Spurs were carrying tired, old baggage like Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and Damon Stoudamire. This season the Spurs replace those guys with Roger Mason, George Hill, and Drew Gooden. In other words, a huge upgrade.
It really all depends on whether Manu returns healthy. Having Tony and Tim is nice, but the Spurs will not win anything without Manu being Manu: fast, herky-jerky, clever, hard-working, clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll see X-factor Manu ever again.
Sure, your role players have gotten younger, but your main guns have gotten older...namely Manu & Duncan.
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
If anything, the Spurs are younger and deeper this season. Last season, the Spurs were carrying tired, old baggage like Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and Damon Stoudamire. This season the Spurs replace those guys with Roger Mason, George Hill, and Drew Gooden. In other words, a huge upgrade.
It really all depends on whether Manu returns healthy. Having Tony and Tim is nice, but the Spurs will not win anything without Manu being Manu: fast, herky-jerky, clever, hard-working, clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll see X-factor Manu ever again.
Sure, your role players have gotten younger, but your main guns have gotten older...namely Manu & Duncan.
As great as Kobe is, just imagine the Lakers without Pao. You wouldn't sniff the Championship. Makes me wonder about Lebron and that MVP.
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
If anything, the Spurs are younger and deeper this season. Last season, the Spurs were carrying tired, old baggage like Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and Damon Stoudamire. This season the Spurs replace those guys with Roger Mason, George Hill, and Drew Gooden. In other words, a huge upgrade.
It really all depends on whether Manu returns healthy. Having Tony and Tim is nice, but the Spurs will not win anything without Manu being Manu: fast, herky-jerky, clever, hard-working, clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll see X-factor Manu ever again.
Sure, your role players have gotten younger, but your main guns have gotten older...namely Manu & Duncan.
As great as Kobe is, just imagine the Lakers without Pao. You wouldn't sniff the Championship. Makes me wonder about Lebron and that MVP.
I don't see how Manu equates to Gasol considering that you also have Tony "the one guy that JoeCool would pick to start a franchise with" Parker, right?
Manu's a slashing guard who has made a career out of kamikaze drives to the hole, and now he's in his 30's. He's hurt and slowing down? No wai! Gasol's a 28 year old big man. Apples and oranges.
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
If anything, the Spurs are younger and deeper this season. Last season, the Spurs were carrying tired, old baggage like Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and Damon Stoudamire. This season the Spurs replace those guys with Roger Mason, George Hill, and Drew Gooden. In other words, a huge upgrade.
It really all depends on whether Manu returns healthy. Having Tony and Tim is nice, but the Spurs will not win anything without Manu being Manu: fast, herky-jerky, clever, hard-working, clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll see X-factor Manu ever again.
Sure, your role players have gotten younger, but your main guns have gotten older...namely Manu & Duncan.
As great as Kobe is, just imagine the Lakers without Pao. You wouldn't sniff the Championship. Makes me wonder about Lebron and that MVP.
I don't see how Manu equates to Gasol considering that you also have Tony "the one guy that JoeCool would pick to start a franchise with" Parker, right?
Manu's a slashing guard who has made a career out of kamikaze drives to the hole, and now he's in his 30's. He's hurt and slowing down? No wai! Gasol's a 28 year old big man. Apples and oranges.
It's not comparing Apples to Oranges if you are comparing their importance to the team. I am not trying to compare their type of play. Gasol's importance to the team is that guy who takes them to the next level as does Manu's importance to his team.
But anyways, without Gasol, you guys are toast. No MVP for Kobe and Lebron gets it hands down.
Hmm, imagine if Lebron had Pao, a 7ft + guy who can run the floor and finish ally-oop dunks. I still think Kobe is individually, the better scorer, but I wonder if Lebron had Jackson and Pao.
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by GiGalo9er:
Excuse me, Spurs fans...but please take a #. Us Dubs' fans are bigger Laker Haters than you are! LOL
(Ensuing Dobo post: "You guys aren't relevant...blah blah blah")
Just f**kin with you guys...enjoy the playoffs. We'll be watching from the lottery in See-cock-us, NJ.
You aren't relevant.
Damn, I'm good!
I'll save you a seat at the bar in Late-May/early June, where we'll be watching the NBA Finals TOGETHER in peace and harmony.
[ Edited by GiGalo9er on Mar 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM ]
Mar 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by dobophile:Originally posted by Joecool:
I still don't understand why people think the Spurs are no longer what they used to be.
How many games are they out of the best record in the league? 9 games. You do know that out of the top 5 teams in the NBA, no team has had more key injuries this entire season than the Spurs. They are still 2nd in the Western conference basically playing the 1st quarter of the season without one or sometimes 2 of their big 3.
Now, they are playing about another quarter of the season without their biggest X-Factor.
You guys can cry about Bynum all you want but the Spurs have been without key players (more than just one) for almost half the season and are still one the top teams in the league.
Just imagine if the Lakers didn't have their X-Factor, Pao, for half a season.
Oh wait, they only had him for half the season last year and weren't that impressive without him.
If anything, the Spurs are younger and deeper this season. Last season, the Spurs were carrying tired, old baggage like Robert Horry, Brent Barry, and Damon Stoudamire. This season the Spurs replace those guys with Roger Mason, George Hill, and Drew Gooden. In other words, a huge upgrade.
It really all depends on whether Manu returns healthy. Having Tony and Tim is nice, but the Spurs will not win anything without Manu being Manu: fast, herky-jerky, clever, hard-working, clutch. Unfortunately, I don't know that we'll see X-factor Manu ever again.
Sure, your role players have gotten younger, but your main guns have gotten older...namely Manu & Duncan.
That's how time works. One year later, they're one year older. Kobe's a year older now, too! He's in his thirties!
Anyway, Duncan is almost 33, but his age is not a huge concern yet. I worry a little about his knees. Manu is 31. That might be old for Manu, given his injuries and his dependence on explosiveness. Parker is 26, in his prime.
The Spurs basically have three role players who are "old": Kurt Thomas, Michael Finley, and Bruce Bowen. Everyone else in the rotation is between the ages of 22 and 33.
So, yes, it's all about Manu. Outside of Manu, the Spurs are a better team than they were last year (or in 2007). If Manu can be that X-factor, this Spurs team is championship-caliber.
Right, but there are legitimate questions about both Manu & Duncan, whereas Kobe & Gasol are still 28 & 30, respectively, without injury issues.
Manu & Parker are excellent players, but they get too much of the focus when Spur's universe revolves around Duncan. When was the last time that he took a game over? It's been since before he missed those 3 games a few weeks ago. Especially if you're going to face the Lakers in the WCFs, Duncan has to dominate in single coverage. He hasn't looked like that sort of player for awhile now, and this is the time of year when the Spurs are usually rounding into form.