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I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

Feb 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM

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He is making this s**t look too easy right now.

Feb 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM

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Originally posted by Joecool:
I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

He also drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

Feb 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by Joecool:
I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

Jordan says things to protect his legacy. He is the guy who said Kobe is a top 10 guards of all time when people were comparing Kobe with Jordan. The guy is bitter, not to mention one of the worst GMs. I'm not even sure why Rashard will even ask him to pick between any two players. It's like asking D'Antoni about defensive schemes.

Feb 15, 2013 at 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

He also drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

Yeah but Kobe's determination was the primary reason why he has won 5. I think Lebron only truly got motivated when he knew he had some serious talent around him and he knew he better step it up. I think he's the greatest talent ever, but don't think he wins a title in CLE unless a superstar joins him there so people call him out and put the Trophy or Bust pressure.

Feb 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

He also drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

Yeah but Kobe's determination was the primary reason why he has won 5. I think Lebron only truly got motivated when he knew he had some serious talent around him and he knew he better step it up. I think he's the greatest talent ever, but don't think he wins a title in CLE unless a superstar joins him there so people call him out and put the Trophy or Bust pressure.

No one wants to live in Cleveland.

Feb 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I am not at all disagreeing with Jordan's comments that he would take Kobe over Lebron but one has just now had the fortune of being on a team that will try to put other top 10 players around him whereas the other was playing for an owner who refused to not have a great product on the court.

Meh, even after that...would still take Kobe.

He also drafted Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

Yeah but Kobe's determination was the primary reason why he has won 5. I think Lebron only truly got motivated when he knew he had some serious talent around him and he knew he better step it up. I think he's the greatest talent ever, but don't think he wins a title in CLE unless a superstar joins him there so people call him out and put the Trophy or Bust pressure.

No one could have won a title with that Cleveland roster. Jordan couldn't get his team to the finals without Pipen. Kobe won 3 titles as the no. 2 guy and won two titles after Lakers landed Gasol. When he didn't have Gasol, he missed playoffs or couldn't get to conference finals. Lebron took a crappy team to finals after beating a great Pistons team.

Mar 1, 2013 at 8:06 AM

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the best harlem shake yet!

Mar 1, 2013 at 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by defenderDX:

the best harlem shake yet!

It's all over the ESPN pre-game show. Loved it!!!