Official 2017 Dodgers Going To The SHIP!!!!

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by reno9er:

Originally posted by solidg2000:
Btw I work till 2 am pt so that's why I wasn't answering, I think it's sad how you are acting like the Giants accomplished something because the Dodgers lost lol

We lost, s**t happens. We're still better positioned for the future then the Giants are. Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Woods and plenty of 5th options sp. our line up is still stacked and the Giants still need a lot of help.

Lol, explain how the Giants need a lot of help. Their lineup will be Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Duffy, Aoki, Pagan, Pence. The Giants had one of the top offenses in the NL last year despite having numerous injuries that aren't likely to repeat next year. And you can bet they will sign starting pitching and their bullpen will be one of the deepest in baseball.

I like our chances next year against the Dodgers "stacked" lineup that didn't do s**te in the playoffs and not as good as the Giants injury riddled lineup in the regular season.

You talk like the Dodgers weren't injured all year! Lmao
Pagan Belt and Pence are injured all the time. And when they're not injured Pence is the only good one.

You pretty much need a whole new outfield and pitching rotation staff. Who do you have aside from Madbum? Heston maybe?

Dodgers outfield is one of the best in baseball when healthy
Gonzalez, turner, Seager, are all staying
All star Catcher is set once he heals after playing injured the last 2 months
SP Kershaw, Grenke, Ryu, Woods, McCarthy all coming back healthy

LMAO. One of the best OFs in baseball. LOL Ethier is a platoon guy who has no power and cant hit lefties. Peterson is a .200 hitter who strikes out every 3 times. Crawford is pretty much done. Puig.. a cancer. I wouldnt even put their OF in the top half in the NL. There isnt one guy that you can depend on game in and game out. You would think that spending almost 300M would get you something a lot better thats for sure.

Also.. let me educate you on Hunter Pence. He is not "injured all the time". In fact, he played 332 consecutive games until he took a game off last season. This is the first time he has missed signifcant time. His absence was far more important than anything the Dodgers had.

Lmao Pence is your best OF lol
Pence was supposed to be the next great OF and he never became that. Average OF at best.

Pederson is a rookie, and he hit for power and even with his ks he had a decent OBP
Puig is a cancer is just stupid talk
Ethier when he was the everyday starter was a .290 BA guy, Mattingly has mismanaged his so bad, you can see why he was frustrated in the playoffs.
Behind them
Crawford, Van Slyke, Rugiano, Hernandez all as good if not better then the rest of your OF. And all would probably start for you right away

I finally found someone who could make NinerRob look smart. Pence is AVERAGE? He would easily be the best outfielder on the Dodgers and there isnt one knowledgable baseball person who wouldnt take him over any of the guys you think make up one of the best OFs in baseball.

But we will never agree on any point regarding the Giants and Dodgers. I will just have to find solace in knowing that our team has won 3 of the last 5 WS while the Dodgers with the biggest payroll in MLB history hasnt even made the WS in 27 years.

Originally posted by solidg2000:
You're really talking cancers when you guys had the worst teammate in history. Everyone hated Barry Bonds but Puig is the cancer. I'm sure Bonds was just misunderstood lol

His own teammates don't like him? yet no ones really come out and said anything, unlike Bonds who was once punched in the face by a teammate and had a well known feud with the other star on the team.

You just hate Puig because he's a Dodger. All Giants hate Puig because he's a Dodger, that's why most baseball fans in the zone don't bother talking baseball with Giants fans. And why jrg talks to himself instead lol

I already addressed the SP, we had a lot of injuries there that we couldn't over come. Yet we still managed 90+ wins which says a lot. If every one heals up, we'd have
Kershaw
Greinke
Ryu
McCarthy
Woods
Arroyo
Latos

And I'm sure I'm missing someone. We also have a good farm system which the Giants lack.

Pederson wasn't too good in the second half but hes still young.

Dodger fan that doesnt even know the team released Latos during the season.

The Dodgers are a dysfunctional mess. They have talent all over the roster, but their manager sucks and their team has no heart or chemistry. Did you see the body language at the end of game 5? They looked like whipped dogs, and they were only down one run. I couldn't believe how defeated they looked. That should have been the time they were most fired up. If Hunter Pence was there at the end of the game he would have kicked some blue azz from one side of the dugout to the other.

Dodger brass should probably rethink their whole philosophy. They have failed to understand that outspending everyone else does not guarantee jack s**t. Any moron can throw money around. It takes a lot more than money to build a winning organization. Makes me think that no one at the top has any idea wtf they're doing. More money than brains apparently.

All that said I hope they continue to be ignorant because I get much lulz watching them implode when it counts.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

I finally found someone who could make NinerRob look smart. Pence is AVERAGE? He would easily be the best outfielder on the Dodgers and there isnt one knowledgable baseball person who wouldnt take him over any of the guys you think make up one of the best OFs in baseball.

But we will never agree on any point regarding the Giants and Dodgers. I will just have to find solace in knowing that our team has won 3 of the last 5 WS while the Dodgers with the biggest payroll in MLB history hasnt even made the WS in 27 years.

So we're ignoring the fact that Puig and Ethier have better BA, OBP, OPS and Puig also beat Pence at Slugging percentage

But he's better then Crawford
Oh but the cheerleader factor...

Latos was designated for assignment in mid Sept and wasn't picked up by another team. I didn't follow him while we were looking forward to the playoffs. I guess I missed his release.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I finally found someone who could make NinerRob look smart. Pence is AVERAGE? He would easily be the best outfielder on the Dodgers and there isnt one knowledgable baseball person who wouldnt take him over any of the guys you think make up one of the best OFs in baseball.

But we will never agree on any point regarding the Giants and Dodgers. I will just have to find solace in knowing that our team has won 3 of the last 5 WS while the Dodgers with the biggest payroll in MLB history hasnt even made the WS in 27 years.

So we're ignoring the fact that Puig and Ethier have better BA, OBP, OPS and Puig also beat Pence at Slugging percentage

But he's better then Crawford
Oh but the cheerleader factor...

Latos was designated for assignment in mid Sept and wasn't picked up by another team. I didn't follow him while we were looking forward to the playoffs. I guess I missed his release.

At least you could get your facts right when you try to make an argument. But that doesnt surprise me that you are wrong given that you dont even know when your own players have been released.

Puig. BA .255
Pence BA .275

Puig OBP .322
Pence OBP ..327

Puig Slugging Avg .436
Pence Slugging Avg .478

Puig OPS .758
Pence OPS .806

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

At least you could get your facts right when you try to make an argument. But that doesnt surprise me that you are wrong given that you dont even know when your own players have been released.

Puig. BA .255
Pence BA .275

Puig OBP .322
Pence OBP ..327

Puig Slugging Avg .436
Pence Slugging Avg .478

Puig OPS .758
Pence OPS .806

John I think you need better reading glasses. He just said he did'nt follow Latos while he was looking forward to the playoffs.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

You're really talking cancers when you guys had the worst teammate in history. Everyone hated Barry Bonds but Puig is the cancer. I'm sure Bonds was just misunderstood lol

His own teammates don't like him? yet no ones really come out and said anything, unlike Bonds who was once punched in the face by a teammate and had a well known feud with the other star on the team.

You just hate Puig because he's a Dodger. All Giants hate Puig because he's a Dodger, that's why most baseball fans in the zone don't bother talking baseball with Giants fans. And why jrg talks to himself instead lol

I already addressed the SP, we had a lot of injuries there that we couldn't over come. Yet we still managed 90+ wins which says a lot. If every one heals up, we'd have
Kershaw
Greinke
Ryu
McCarthy
Woods
Arroyo
Latos

And I'm sure I'm missing someone. We also have a good farm system which the Giants lack.

Pederson wasn't too good in the second half but hes still young.

lol, so youre comparing Puig to Bonds because they were both hated? Barry Bonds was the greatest hitter of his generation. Puig is not. It's well documented that the Dodger players dont like Puig. They were thinking about trading him this year.

People hate Puig because hes a douchebag, not because hes a Dodger. He tosses his bat on hits that bounces on the warning track. Hes a hot headed showboat who hasnt earned his right to do any of it.

BTW, that list of pitchers you posted? Theyre all mediocre after Kershaw and Greinke. You have a 2 man rotation.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

At least you could get your facts right when you try to make an argument. But that doesnt surprise me that you are wrong given that you dont even know when your own players have been released.

Puig. BA .255
Pence BA .275

Puig OBP .322
Pence OBP ..327

Puig Slugging Avg .436
Pence Slugging Avg .478

Puig OPS .758
Pence OPS .806

Yes because I was talking about this I fury riddled season, and not his career averages

Originally posted by Niners99:

lol, so youre comparing Puig to Bonds because they were both hated? Barry Bonds was the greatest hitter of his generation. Puig is not. It's well documented that the Dodger players dont like Puig. They were thinking about trading him this year.

People hate Puig because hes a douchebag, not because hes a Dodger. He tosses his bat on hits that bounces on the warning track. Hes a hot headed showboat who hasnt earned his right to do any of it.

BTW, that list of pitchers you posted? Theyre all mediocre after Kershaw and Greinke. You have a 2 man rotation.

Ryu mediocre?
McCarthy, Woods, Arroyo are all capable and on other rotations they're #2 or 3

Well documented? There's also even more publication saying that Puig isn't a problem. As opposed to Bonds being hated by everyone

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
At least you could get your facts right when you try to make an argument. But that doesnt surprise me that you are wrong given that you dont even know when your own players have been released.

Puig. BA .255
Pence BA .275

Puig OBP .322
Pence OBP ..327

Puig Slugging Avg .436
Pence Slugging Avg .478

Puig OPS .758
Pence OPS .806

Yes because I was talking about this I fury riddled season, and not his career averages

Ethier was once a very good player that could play everyday at one time. Sadly, it was years ago. Now he is just an overpaid platoon player. He had a pretty good bounce back year after a simply pathetic season in 2014 when he hit 4 hrs in 380 at bats and hit .249.

But if you actually think that Andre Ethier or Yasiel Puig are better overall players than Hunter Pence right NOW then I dont know what to say.

find me a team where Arroyo is #3

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:
lol, so youre comparing Puig to Bonds because they were both hated? Barry Bonds was the greatest hitter of his generation. Puig is not. It's well documented that the Dodger players dont like Puig. They were thinking about trading him this year.

People hate Puig because hes a douchebag, not because hes a Dodger. He tosses his bat on hits that bounces on the warning track. Hes a hot headed showboat who hasnt earned his right to do any of it.

BTW, that list of pitchers you posted? Theyre all mediocre after Kershaw and Greinke. You have a 2 man rotation.

Ryu mediocre?
McCarthy, Woods, Arroyo are all capable and on other rotations they're #2 or 3

Well documented? There's also even more publication saying that Puig isn't a problem. As opposed to Bonds being hated by everyone

Brandon McCarthy... lifetime 4.13 era 1.289 whip
Bronson Arroyo 4.19 era 1.292 whip

Arroyo 37 years old and didnt make a pitch in 2015.. yep that is who I would want to count on. McCarthy coming of Tommy John and wont be ready for start of year.. clearly a #2 or 3 for 2015. LOL Ryu? Another unknown coming off shoulder surgery.

The Dodgers rotation has tons of holes and if Greinke should leave they are f**ked. Maybe they can count on Mat Latos. Oh wait...

Originally posted by HaiGuise:
find me a team where Arroyo is #3

The Dodgers?