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Jun 24, 2019 at 2:54 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Do Cardinal pitchers have tommy john at a higher rate than other teams, or does it just seem that way?
Jun 24, 2019 at 3:19 PM
- JustinMT
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Do Cardinal pitchers have tommy john at a higher rate than other teams, or does it just seem that way?
Peer pressure is no joke
Jun 24, 2019 at 3:59 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Do Cardinal pitchers have tommy john at a higher rate than other teams, or does it just seem that way?
Peer pressure is no joke
Poor coaching is no joke either. Alex Reyes is going to be on the what could have been list. Hoping Jordan Hicks isnt going to join him.
Jun 24, 2019 at 4:54 PM
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Jun 24, 2019 at 9:51 PM
- valrod33
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Originally posted by jrg:
Told you he was gonna blow that arm out
Jun 25, 2019 at 9:08 AM
- Rubberneck36
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Do Cardinal pitchers have tommy john at a higher rate than other teams, or does it just seem that way?
Peer pressure is no joke
Poor coaching is no joke either. Alex Reyes is going to be on the what could have been list. Hoping Jordan Hicks isnt going to join him.
Rosenthal. Then he came back from it with the Nats and couldn't throw a strike anymore. Just got released.
Jun 25, 2019 at 9:50 AM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
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Peer pressure is no joke
Poor coaching is no joke either. Alex Reyes is going to be on the what could have been list. Hoping Jordan Hicks isnt going to join him.
Rosenthal. Then he came back from it with the Nats and couldn't throw a strike anymore. Just got released.
Long list of Cardinals.
Wainwright
Rosenthal
Reyes
Lance Lynn
Seth Maness
Marco Gonzalez
Now Jordan Hicks
Seems like Cardinals pitchers have TJ at a higher rate than other teams. Could just seem that way, but yeah.
Jun 25, 2019 at 12:23 PM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:+ Show all quotes
Poor coaching is no joke either. Alex Reyes is going to be on the what could have been list. Hoping Jordan Hicks isnt going to join him.
Rosenthal. Then he came back from it with the Nats and couldn't throw a strike anymore. Just got released.
Long list of Cardinals.
Wainwright
Rosenthal
Reyes
Lance Lynn
Seth Maness
Marco Gonzalez
Now Jordan Hicks
Seems like Cardinals pitchers have TJ at a higher rate than other teams. Could just seem that way, but yeah.
Its probably because they only target guys who throw super hard. Higher chance those guys blow their arms out.
Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM
- jrg
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Fantasy guys: Carlos Martinez taking over as closer
Jun 25, 2019 at 1:23 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
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Rosenthal. Then he came back from it with the Nats and couldn't throw a strike anymore. Just got released.
Long list of Cardinals.
Wainwright
Rosenthal
Reyes
Lance Lynn
Seth Maness
Marco Gonzalez
Now Jordan Hicks
Seems like Cardinals pitchers have TJ at a higher rate than other teams. Could just seem that way, but yeah.
Its probably because they only target guys who throw super hard. Higher chance those guys blow their arms out.
Or because their coaching staff is unable to identify mechanical flaws that lead to injuries?

Jun 25, 2019 at 4:44 PM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:+ Show all quotes
Long list of Cardinals.
Wainwright
Rosenthal
Reyes
Lance Lynn
Seth Maness
Marco Gonzalez
Now Jordan Hicks
Seems like Cardinals pitchers have TJ at a higher rate than other teams. Could just seem that way, but yeah.
Its probably because they only target guys who throw super hard. Higher chance those guys blow their arms out.
Or because their coaching staff is unable to identify mechanical flaws that lead to injuries?
I don't think it's something mechanical fixes can change, its more just the way they throw the ball entirely. Stephen Strasburg has a horrible throwing motion for his arm. A big reason why hes been injured so much. When you've made the big leagues throwing a certain way, its not always realistic to change your delivery entirely.
The Cards built their bullpen with a strategy of power arms. At one point nearly every guy in their pen threw 100 mph. Those guys are just more likely to blow out their arm, which probably made them stand out in that area.
Jun 25, 2019 at 4:47 PM
- Ninerjohn
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The Yankees have a homerun derby every night. That lineup is sick and then they get to play 1/2 their games in a bandbox like Yankee Stadium. They really should trade Frazier for Bum. They dont need him anyway.
Jun 25, 2019 at 4:53 PM
- jrg
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The Yankees have a homerun derby every night. That lineup is sick and then they get to play 1/2 their games in a bandbox like Yankee Stadium. They really should trade Frazier for Bum. They dont need him anyway.
Ready something earlier that the Yanks are after Luis Castillo.

Jun 25, 2019 at 5:21 PM
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My friend is making his mlb debut for the Dodgers tomorrow. Starting against the Dbacks. Insaaaane
Jun 25, 2019 at 5:23 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by Zachary:
My friend is making his mlb debut for the Dodgers tomorrow. Starting against the Dbacks. Insaaaane
Hope he gets lit up. LOL Nothing personal.
