***2024 MLB Regular Season Thread***

Originally posted by Niners99:

There are 71 players who already have 20+ HR's this year.

In 2001, 41 players had 30+ HR. This season we will likely see more than that, which is nuts.

Baseball let the PED users save the game with big offensive production, then crucified them when the public found out. Now they've successfully replicated PED scoring production with the new balls, and they're thrilled about it. So it was never about "tainted" records. MLB doesn't give a crap about the playing field in relation to their records. They just want to increase revenue without making the fans feel like they've been watching cheaters.

The irony is the juiced balls are probably going to end up being the biggest advantage in history, and the biggest factor of skewing records that weve seen.

They are very out of touch and its a sad how they think they are fooling fans. Baseball desperately needs a new commissioner, they need an Adam Silver.

I'm not crying, you're crying!

I posted this in the netflix thread but you guys should check out Screwball. Its a documentary on Biogenisis in Miami and how much the MLB and A-Rod were involved. Its a crazy story.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

There are multiple 400 foot shots hit every night with the juiced balls they play with now. What is so special about this one. Hell, not even a walk off.

There are 71 players who already have 20+ HR's this year.

In 2001, 41 players had 30+ HR. This season we will likely see more than that, which is nuts.

Baseball let the PED users save the game with big offensive production, then crucified them when the public found out. Now they've successfully replicated PED scoring production with the new balls, and they're thrilled about it. So it was never about "tainted" records. MLB doesn't give a crap about the playing field in relation to their records. They just want to increase revenue without making the fans feel like they've been watching cheaters.

The irony is the juiced balls are probably going to end up being the biggest advantage in history, and the biggest factor of skewing records that weve seen.

Yeah but it's not the same. Attendance is way down despite the homers. 150,000 less fans so far just for the Yankees. And a lot of people, to include former players, think the game is s**t right now. Steroids saved baseball for many but today's game isn't entertaining. No strategy, no steals, just a ton of strike outs and homers. It's not fun to watch. Check the article on USA Today criticizing the game

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2019/08/19/mlb-baseballs-old-timers-decry-state-modern-game/2047025001/

Sorry if I ruined your steroid soapbox.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Yeah but it's not the same. Attendance is way down despite the homers. 150,000 less fans so far just for the Yankees. And a lot of people, to include former players, think the game is s**t right now. Steroids saved baseball for many but today's game isn't entertaining. No strategy, no steals, just a ton of strike outs and homers. It's not fun to watch. Check the article on USA Today criticizing the game

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2019/08/19/mlb-baseballs-old-timers-decry-state-modern-game/2047025001/

Sorry if I ruined your steroid soapbox.

You didn't, because my point had nothing to do with attendance, or the reality of the popularity of the game. It was about what baseball is trying to prioritize. They want more scoring because they think it will generate more revenue and attract global viewers. They went to London and clearly used rubber baseballs, or something. 50 total runs in two games in front of a new market in their first experience with the game.

Im being critical of MLB because they're such hypocrites. They condemned the PED users as criminals, yet have now bought Rawlings and have re-created the ball to make every park like Coors Field. The numbers being attained today deserve more of an asterisk than any numbers from the steroid era. The era they are trying to erase from history is going to be overshadowed by this era they are purposefully creating. Rob Manfred is ruining the game.

BTW, nobody goes to Yankees games because the ticket prices are insane.

Originally posted by Niners99:

You didn't, because my point had nothing to do with attendance, or the reality of the popularity of the game. It was about what baseball is trying to prioritize. They want more scoring because they think it will generate more revenue and attract global viewers. They went to London and clearly used rubber baseballs, or something. 50 total runs in two games in front of a new market in their first experience with the game.

Im being critical of MLB because they're such hypocrites. They condemned the PED users as criminals, yet have now bought Rawlings and have re-created the ball to make every park like Coors Field. The numbers being attained today deserve more of an asterisk than any numbers from the steroid era. The era they are trying to erase from history is going to be overshadowed by this era they are purposefully creating. Rob Manfred is ruining the game.

BTW, nobody goes to Yankees games because the ticket prices are insane.

I don't think you read the article. They are teaching kids to swing this way now. Attendance is down all across the league. A lot. I think the homers are as stupid as you, but let's not go overboard with the steroid stuff. It's just personal to you because your favorite player isn't in the Hof. It's not all ball (and I think it's not corked just the seams are smaller creating less drag) it's also the way they teach kids to hit now. Which is what the old guys were addressing.

800,000 less people attended a game this year compared to last year. That's not Yankee pricing.

Either way it sucks.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by Niners99:
You didn't, because my point had nothing to do with attendance, or the reality of the popularity of the game. It was about what baseball is trying to prioritize. They want more scoring because they think it will generate more revenue and attract global viewers. They went to London and clearly used rubber baseballs, or something. 50 total runs in two games in front of a new market in their first experience with the game.

Im being critical of MLB because they're such hypocrites. They condemned the PED users as criminals, yet have now bought Rawlings and have re-created the ball to make every park like Coors Field. The numbers being attained today deserve more of an asterisk than any numbers from the steroid era. The era they are trying to erase from history is going to be overshadowed by this era they are purposefully creating. Rob Manfred is ruining the game.

BTW, nobody goes to Yankees games because the ticket prices are insane.

I don't think you read the article. They are teaching kids to swing this way now. Attendance is down all across the league. A lot. I think the homers are as stupid as you, but let's not go overboard with the steroid stuff. It's just personal to you because your favorite player isn't in the Hof. It's not all ball (and I think it's not corked just the seams are smaller creating less drag) it's also the way they teach kids to hit now. Which is what the old guys were addressing.

800,000 less people attended a game this year compared to last year. That's not Yankee pricing.

Either way it sucks.

They changed the core of the baseball. The commish already comfirmed it

Originally posted by Knowledge:

They changed the core of the baseball. The commish already comfirmed it

Yeah but they haven't proved that is making it go farther but pictchers have stated the seams feel smaller so the ball has less drag.

Either way the players didn't choose the ball changes or lie to teams, fans, etc so they shouldn't be penalized like it was their fault

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

I don't think you read the article. They are teaching kids to swing this way now. Attendance is down all across the league. A lot. I think the homers are as stupid as you, but let's not go overboard with the steroid stuff. It's just personal to you because your favorite player isn't in the Hof. It's not all ball (and I think it's not corked just the seams are smaller creating less drag) it's also the way they teach kids to hit now. Which is what the old guys were addressing.

800,000 less people attended a game this year compared to last year. That's not Yankee pricing.

Either way it sucks.

My favorite player will be inducted in to the HOF 5 years after he retires.

PED's were cheating, these balls are not, but they're producing the same results, which will topple all time records all the same.

Originally posted by Niners99:

My favorite player will be inducted in to the HOF 5 years after he retires.

PED's were cheating, these balls are not, but they're producing the same results, which will topple all time records all the same.

One is a cheater and one is a benefit to a change.

It's no different than hockey changing their rules so more scoring occurs. Doesn't mean players are penalized.

I'm not worried about the homers. I hate the lack of hit and runs, steals, small ball, all the shifts, bunts, and all the strike outs.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by Niners99:

My favorite player will be inducted in to the HOF 5 years after he retires.

PED's were cheating, these balls are not, but they're producing the same results, which will topple all time records all the same.

One is a cheater and one is a benefit to a change.

It's no different than hockey changing their rules so more scoring occurs. Doesn't mean players are penalized.

I'm not worried about the homers. I hate the lack of hit and runs, steals, small ball, all the shifts, bunts, and all the strike outs.

Right, but the main reason everyone was upset by steroids was that it was ruining baseballs' sacred records. Regardless of whether it was cheating or different balls, the records will be blown away further. I just think its hypocritical on the highest level for baseball to be altering the sport like this for profits, considering the way they reacted to PED's.

Im not even sure were arguing the same subject here. Im not defending steroids, im criticizing baseball.

With so much being made about the balls you know they are gonna change them back, so I dont think this one year of juiced balls is gonna harm any long term records

Juiced balls and the Phillies still suck

Originally posted by Niners99:

Right, but the main reason everyone was upset by steroids was that it was ruining baseballs' sacred records. Regardless of whether it was cheating or different balls, the records will be blown away further. I just think its hypocritical on the highest level for baseball to be altering the sport like this for profits, considering the way they reacted to PED's.

Im not even sure were arguing the same subject here. Im not defending steroids, im criticizing baseball.

Oh I'm not arguing it. I only chimed in because you said the players deserve more of an asterisk then the steroid players. And that just screams 99 be his Bonds soapbox lol

All good

baseballs sacred records
lolz

anyone know how many ground rule doubles were considered HRs back when boast first started going to games?