The San Francisco Giants Thread

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So the Giants have seen several teams make moves to strengthen their chances and havent done anything. Look for that to change tomorrow. Mike Leake will be a Giant sometime in the next 18 hours.

So if this does happen the question is .... how much will they have to give up?

Mike Leake is kind of the losers prize of this years deadline. I certainly hope we dont give up anything good.

99.. You really changed your tune quickly on Leake!

Nice call on Leake, John!

Thanks Ghost. Maybe he will be the steal of the deadline and lead us back to the playoffs.

Should be an active day today for many teams. Upton, Cespedes, Shields, Kimbrel... could they all be going somewhere? So many big names traded this year.

I wonder if we go after Chapman now. The teams both have a feel for the value/interest in our prospects...maybe we make one more trade with the Reds to solidify the bullpen.

Kontos, Romo, Lopez, Strickland, Osich, Casilla, Chapman??? Like the Royals, you can make it a 6 inning game most times.

trading for Chapman would shock me. I would think he would cost Beede or Crick, Arroyo, and Strickland or Osich at a minimum given that he isnt a rental.

I'd give up Beede and Arroyo+change knowing I have Chapman for next year's run too, but not Crick, Strickland or Osich.

Just me, but with the development of Panik/Duffy and the incredible growth of Crawford, Christian Arroyo is blocked from any meaningful big league playing time for the foreseeable future. Sure, it'd be nice to have a young stud you can call up in the event of injury, but sometimes you have to take from areas of strength (infield prospects) to plug up critical areas of weakness/vulnerability (big league closer).

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Good trade I suppose. We still get to keep Beede, Susac, and Crick, and now we have a third dependable starter.

It will be a good trade if we can sign him in the offseason.

Most definitely, but we're going to sign a good SP regardless next offseason, whether it's Leake or not. I don't think we have a choice at this point.

No doubt about that. The Giants will be in the market for at least one premium starter in the off season.

I think they should go all-in on David Price in the off-season.

If Jon Lester can get about 170M I hate to think how much David Price will cost.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Good trade I suppose. We still get to keep Beede, Susac, and Crick, and now we have a third dependable starter.

It will be a good trade if we can sign him in the offseason.

Most definitely, but we're going to sign a good SP regardless next offseason, whether it's Leake or not. I don't think we have a choice at this point.

No doubt about that. The Giants will be in the market for at least one premium starter in the off season.

I think they should go all-in on David Price in the off-season.

If Jon Lester can get about 170M I hate to think how much David Price will cost.

He'll likely get Scherzer money.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Good trade I suppose. We still get to keep Beede, Susac, and Crick, and now we have a third dependable starter.

It will be a good trade if we can sign him in the offseason.

Most definitely, but we're going to sign a good SP regardless next offseason, whether it's Leake or not. I don't think we have a choice at this point.

No doubt about that. The Giants will be in the market for at least one premium starter in the off season.

I think they should go all-in on David Price in the off-season.

If Jon Lester can get about 170M I hate to think how much David Price will cost.

He'll likely get Scherzer money.

Yep. $210M is a lot of money for a pitcher. Honestly. if Leake pitches well over the next 2 months and he costs half that much that would probably be the better way to go. Just hard for me to wrap my brain around paying $200M+ for a pitcher.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Good trade I suppose. We still get to keep Beede, Susac, and Crick, and now we have a third dependable starter.

It will be a good trade if we can sign him in the offseason.

Most definitely, but we're going to sign a good SP regardless next offseason, whether it's Leake or not. I don't think we have a choice at this point.

No doubt about that. The Giants will be in the market for at least one premium starter in the off season.

I think they should go all-in on David Price in the off-season.

If Jon Lester can get about 170M I hate to think how much David Price will cost.

He'll likely get Scherzer money.

Yep. $210M is a lot of money for a pitcher. Honestly. if Leake pitches well over the next 2 months and he costs half that much that would probably be the better way to go. Just hard for me to wrap my brain around paying $200M+ for a pitcher.

Price of doing business in the high-end SP market.

hmmm so you guys traded for Mike Leake? Well s**t, now I guess I have to jump on this bandwagon.

Loved Leake in college, he was so awesome for us.

His wiki page says "After graduating from high school, Leake attended Arizona State University, where he majored in management and was, in general, a badass." lol.

He pretty much was though. His junior year pitching

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leake

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
hmmm so you guys traded for Mike Leake? Well s**t, now I guess I have to jump on this bandwagon.

Loved Leake in college, he was so awesome for us.

His wiki page says "After graduating from high school, Leake attended Arizona State University, where he majored in management and was, in general, a badass." lol.

He pretty much was though. His junior year pitching

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leake

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
hmmm so you guys traded for Mike Leake? Well s**t, now I guess I have to jump on this bandwagon.

Loved Leake in college, he was so awesome for us.

His wiki page says "After graduating from high school, Leake attended Arizona State University, where he majored in management and was, in general, a badass." lol.

He pretty much was though. His junior year pitching

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leake

welcome aboard

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
hmmm so you guys traded for Mike Leake? Well s**t, now I guess I have to jump on this bandwagon.

Loved Leake in college, he was so awesome for us.

His wiki page says "After graduating from high school, Leake attended Arizona State University, where he majored in management and was, in general, a badass." lol.

He pretty much was though. His junior year pitching

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leake

welcome aboard

this!

So, I think we're pretty much finished. Anybody have any other predictions?

Originally posted by mayo49:
So, I think we're pretty much finished. Anybody have any other predictions?

we're winning the division

Originally posted by boast:
we're winning the division

That's what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I wonder if we go after Chapman now. The teams both have a feel for the value/interest in our prospects...maybe we make one more trade with the Reds to solidify the bullpen.

Kontos, Romo, Lopez, Strickland, Osich, Casilla, Chapman??? Like the Royals, you can make it a 6 inning game most times.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So the Giants have seen several teams make moves to strengthen their chances and havent done anything. Look for that to change tomorrow. Mike Leake will be a Giant sometime in the next 18 hours.

So if this does happen the question is .... how much will they have to give up?

Mike Leake is kind of the losers prize of this years deadline. I certainly hope we dont give up anything good.

99.. You really changed your tune quickly on Leake!

Nice call on Leake, John!

Thanks Ghost. Maybe he will be the steal of the deadline and lead us back to the playoffs.

Should be an active day today for many teams. Upton, Cespedes, Shields, Kimbrel... could they all be going somewhere? So many big names traded this year.

I wonder if we go after Chapman now. The teams both have a feel for the value/interest in our prospects...maybe we make one more trade with the Reds to solidify the bullpen.

Kontos, Romo, Lopez, Strickland, Osich, Casilla, Chapman??? Like the Royals, you can make it a 6 inning game most times.

trading for Chapman would shock me. I would think he would cost Beede or Crick, Arroyo, and Strickland or Osich at a minimum given that he isnt a rental.

I'd give up Beede and Arroyo+change knowing I have Chapman for next year's run too, but not Crick, Strickland or Osich.

Just me, but with the development of Panik/Duffy and the incredible growth of Crawford, Christian Arroyo is blocked from any meaningful big league playing time for the foreseeable future. Sure, it'd be nice to have a young stud you can call up in the event of injury, but sometimes you have to take from areas of strength (infield prospects) to plug up critical areas of weakness/vulnerability (big league closer).

I'm with Ghost here - and not just in saying again, "I want Chapman", but I'm also with his further thoughts here (being in contact w/ the Reds already, solidifying our bullpen and shortening the game/make it lights out in the 9th, etc.). If the Reds would do it, I would be fine with Beede and Arroyo + cash for Chapman for the reasons Ghost lists here. Can you imagine not having to count on/worry about Casilla or Romo having to close it out going forward and into the playoffs? Having someone like Chapman come in and it's basically game over? I hear there are some good offers put forward to the Reds right now (heard the D-Backs are probably out)...I wonder if one of those offers are from the Giants? Get 'er done, Evans, and this team would be set this year and be in great position for next year.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
I'll never like rental deals when it's for one of our better prospects

I like our chances to re-sign Leake.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Good trade I suppose. We still get to keep Beede, Susac, and Crick, and now we have a third dependable starter.

It will be a good trade if we can sign him in the offseason.

Most definitely, but we're going to sign a good SP regardless next offseason, whether it's Leake or not. I don't think we have a choice at this point.

No doubt about that. The Giants will be in the market for at least one premium starter in the off season.

I think they should go all-in on David Price in the off-season.

If Jon Lester can get about 170M I hate to think how much David Price will cost.

Lester got 155. Im guessing Price gets around 180.