OFFICIAL: 2015 & 2016 NBA Finals Thread - Cleveland Cavaliers vs Golden State Warriors

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

I really really hope Irving is fine. He's a great player and I don't want anything taken away from what the Warriors accomplished if they do win.

Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

best team ALWAYS wins in a 7 game series. GS aint gotta apologize for nothing

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I really really hope Irving is fine. He's a great player and I don't want anything taken away from what the Warriors accomplished if they do win.

Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

See I've never experienced a championship in any sport so I don't know how it is. If this is the Dubs only championship I don't want anyone talking about astericks or how we were just lucky that all our opponents were injured. If Irving doesn't play I know the media's going to be pushing that angle non-stop. They already started that narrative after Irving left.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Warriors having Seahawk type luck in the playoffs. The starting PG of every team they've faced has been injured either some or all of each series. They probably still would've beat them all even with those point guards healthy but you still have to admit that's some pretty good luck and Kevin Love is a huge loss for Cavs as well.

10-15 years from now nobody will remember or even give a s**t. you either win or you dont.

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I really really hope Irving is fine. He's a great player and I don't want anything taken away from what the Warriors accomplished if they do win.

Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

See I've never experienced a championship in any sport so I don't know how it is. If this is the Dubs only championship I don't want anyone talking about astericks or how we were just lucky that all our opponents were injured. If Irving doesn't play I know the media's going to be pushing that angle non-stop. They already started that narrative after Irving left.

this. in the end irving played his heart out (when maybe he shouldn't) gritting through not being 100%....it wasn't a dirty play that got him hurt, he took his risk and got bit. cavs are still going to battle without him like they did vs atlanta, so the warriors know they can't let the foot off the pedal

3 more to go!!!

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

Yup

The Warriors are a complete team with a loyal fanbase and a great coach. They are the better team, and deserve to win this title.

The Cavs are a one man show (by that I mean theyd be a nobody without LeBron) that coasted through a cupcake conference. Their coach is a figurehead that is more of a spectator than anything. And the Cleveland fans all burned their LeBron jerseys and split as soon as he left. Screw them.

Kyrie being hurt will just help ensure that the right team wins, and could take the outcome of the series out of the refs hands, which is always a good thing.

Only fringe lunatics would put an asterisk on a GS championship, but if GS wins what a lot of media people will do is cite the injuries of their opponents, plus not facing the Spurs or Clippers, to argue against them even being considered one of the best teams of all time (I already saw Mike & Mike doing this before this series started). But that will just give our guys extra motivation for next year. If they do close this series out after going 67-15 in an extremely tough conferenc, with a 10 point win differential, and now 13-3 so far in the playoffs, it will have been one of the best seasons of all time, regardless of what the critics say.

Originally posted by vaden:
Only fringe lunatics would put an asterisk on a GS championship, but if GS wins what a lot of media people will do is cite the injuries of their opponents, plus not facing the Spurs or Clippers, to argue against them even being considered one of the best teams of all time (I already saw Mike & Mike doing this before this series started). But that will just give our guys extra motivation for next year. If they do close this series out after going 67-15 in an extremely tough conferenc, with a 10 point win differential, and now 13-3 so far in the playoffs, it will have been one of the best seasons of all time, regardless of what the critics say.

Exactly. I know without a doubt some in the media will minimize a GS championship by citing those things. But the fact of the matter is, the Dubs didn't avoid the Spurs or Clippers. Neither one of those teams earned the right to play the Warriors. They lost their series. That's on them, not the Dubs. Spurs lost to Clips, Clips lost to Rockets, Rockets lost to Dubs. We didn't avoid anybody.

Like you said, the Dubs posted a historic 67-15 season. Just one of ten teams to do that. They had a historic margin-of-victory average, especially at home. They were the best team in the NBA all season long, and they were ranked #1 or 2 in damn near every offensive and defensive category. They are clearly the best team, and if they win the NBA finals, that would make it clear that there was nothing the Spurs, Clips, or a full Cavs squad could have done about it.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Exactly. I know without a doubt some in the media will minimize a GS championship by citing those things. But the fact of the matter is, the Dubs didn't avoid the Spurs or Clippers. Neither one of those teams earned the right to play the Warriors. They lost their series. That's on them, not the Dubs. Spurs lost to Clips, Clips lost to Rockets, Rockets lost to Dubs. We didn't avoid anybody.

Like you said, the Dubs posted a historic 67-15 season. Just one of ten teams to do that. They had a historic margin-of-victory average, especially at home. They were the best team in the NBA all season long, and they were ranked #1 or 2 in damn near every offensive and defensive category. They are clearly the best team, and if they win the NBA finals, that would make it clear that there was nothing the Spurs, Clips, or a full Cavs squad could have done about it.

Winning an NBA chip is extremely difficult to do. The champion is never lucky unlike in the NFL where you can stink all year then sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard then get hot and win out in the single game elimination tourney as did the NYG. In the NBA you gotta grind through an 82 game regular season just to make the playoffs and once you do you got survive four best of seven series to emerge with the chip. It's never luck and every team has to deal with injury. Kyrie got hurt but it ain't like he's been dealing with the wear and tear of long playoff runs like his teammate LeBron has. He gotta recover then cone back next year ready to withstand the grind. Once GS wins this they will have earned it the hard way just like every other NBA champ. This is why I love the 7 game series format. You gotta earn victory

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Exactly. I know without a doubt some in the media will minimize a GS championship by citing those things. But the fact of the matter is, the Dubs didn't avoid the Spurs or Clippers. Neither one of those teams earned the right to play the Warriors. They lost their series. That's on them, not the Dubs. Spurs lost to Clips, Clips lost to Rockets, Rockets lost to Dubs. We didn't avoid anybody.

Like you said, the Dubs posted a historic 67-15 season. Just one of ten teams to do that. They had a historic margin-of-victory average, especially at home. They were the best team in the NBA all season long, and they were ranked #1 or 2 in damn near every offensive and defensive category. They are clearly the best team, and if they win the NBA finals, that would make it clear that there was nothing the Spurs, Clips, or a full Cavs squad could have done about it.

This. Dubs are a historically great team and would be favorites if Kyrie and Love were healthy. Media is dumb - they need to fill 24 hours worth of programming - so they have to over-analyze everything.

People act like a conference is bad for the first time and that's the only reason why Lebron is reaching Finals.

In the 80s -

Western Conference had 16 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning %
Eastern Conference had 15 teams in the playoffs at.500 or below mark that made the playoffs.

There were 13 other teams that barely had a winning record (42-40) during the regular season.

In the 90s-

Western Conference had 12 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning %
Eastern Conference had 7 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning % and also had 7 other teams that went 42-40 in the regular season that made the playoffs.


During the 5 year stretch Lebron has made finals -
7 teams with .500 or below record made the playoffs in the Eastern Conf. and 2 teams had won 1 game over .500 (42-40).

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

I really really hope Irving is fine. He's a great player and I don't want anything taken away from what the Warriors accomplished if they do win.

Nothing will be taken away from any team that wins the championship. In 2 years nobody will even remember who got hurt or this and that. It will just be that they won the championship in 14-15.

See I've never experienced a championship in any sport so I don't know how it is. If this is the Dubs only championship I don't want anyone talking about astericks or how we were just lucky that all our opponents were injured. If Irving doesn't play I know the media's going to be pushing that angle non-stop. They already started that narrative after Irving left.

Every starting point guard we've faced in the playoffs have been injured. That narrative has been out. I'll take a championship any way we can get it

Originally posted by 4ML:
People act like a conference is bad for the first time and that's the only reason why Lebron is reaching Finals.

In the 80s -

Western Conference had 16 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning %
Eastern Conference had 15 teams in the playoffs at.500 or below mark that made the playoffs.

There were 13 other teams that barely had a winning record (42-40) during the regular season.

In the 90s-

Western Conference had 12 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning %
Eastern Conference had 7 teams in the playoffs at .500 or below winning % and also had 7 other teams that went 42-40 in the regular season that made the playoffs.


During the 5 year stretch Lebron has made finals -
7 teams with .500 or below record made the playoffs in the Eastern Conf. and 2 teams had won 1 game over .500 (42-40).

The East has been top heavy since I can remember. It ain't LeBron fault it's that way but it is a virtual guarantee that if he is healthy and in the East he is a betting favorite to make the Finals. He is the best player in the game in the weaker conference. He gonna be in the Finals at least four more years ... Minimum. All he had to do now is keep guys coming to CLE with him until he wins again. Right now LA and NYC ain't the draws they were with diminished stars. MIA is diminished with and older Wade though Bosh will be healthier and they got Riley so they're better off than the other two but CLE has LeBron. The best in the game and guys know he gives you a chance at the ultimate chance every year you play with him right now. Nothing should be taken from LeBron because he's playing in CLE

lol Blatt sounds like Mike Singletary. "Id have to look at the tape and get back to you."