OFFICIAL: 2015 & 2016 NBA Finals Thread - Cleveland Cavaliers vs Golden State Warriors

I think Smith is opting out so I doubt they'll resign him.

Steph Curry is the first NBA player born in Akron, OH to win an NBA Championship in Cleveland. #funfacts

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Steph Curry is the first NBA player born in Akron, OH to win an NBA Championship in Cleveland. #funfacts

Ouch Lebron.

So this is the highest rated NBA Finals broadcast in ABC history

Game Ratings (households) American audience (in millions)
1 10.6[38] 17.77[39]
2 10.8[40] 19.17[41]
3 11.1[42] 18.77[42]
4 11.7[43] 19.84[44]
5 11.8[45] 20.86[46]
6 15.9 TBA

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Cavs should dump Love and acquire Demare Carroll and Danny Green, and maybe an upgrade over Delly.

Kyrie Irving
Danny Green
Lebron James
Demare Carroll
Anderson Varejao

Delly
JR Smith
Shumpert
Thompson
Mazgov

They're not going to dump Kevin Love. Cavs were 32-3 in the last 35 games Lebron, Irving, and Love played together.

Should sign a back-up PG and a perimeter defender who can shoot 3s and go for it again. If they stay healthy - they got the best chance of winning in 2016.

Kyrie is 6th best even though he played only 1 game and ppl keep saying Cavs were better without Kyrie lol

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL. The Cavs series to lose.

Hell I thought GS was the favorite?

Originally posted by jacklegniner:
"For the entire Finals the Cavs' offensive rating was 93.8 points per 100 possessions. With James on the floor it jumped to 97.3. With James off the floor, it fell to 50.9. The Cavs scored 51 points per 100 possessions when James was on the bench. They were inept without him on the court. He only sat for a total of 23 minutes over the course of six games, during which time the Cavs made just six field goals."

Not sure if I should be amazed at James or shocked the Cavs at least turned it into a series or disgusted at the supporting cast.

Lebron had an all-time great NBA Finals. It's hilarious some ppl are tryin' to knock his performance. Warriors were just too good...this year.

LeBron averaged 30.1 points, 11.3 rebounds, 8.5 assists throughout the playoffs this year.

LeBron finished the postseason with 601 points, 226 rebounds, 169 assists.
Nobody's ever done that.

Lebron lead both teams in Points, Assists, and Rebounds in the NBA Finals.
Nobody's ever done that.

Originally posted by 4ML:
They're not going to dump Kevin Love. Cavs were 32-3 in the last 35 games Lebron, Irving, and Love played together.

Should sign a back-up PG and a perimeter defender who can shoot 3s and go for it again. If they stay healthy - they got the best chance of winning in 2016.

Agree. They invested so much in trading for Love. Gave up Wiggins to get him. Can't get rid of him after one year, he is part of the solution and I think he'll definitely choose to return.

Cavs have a legit Big 3. Fill out the rest of the roster with defensive and shooting specialists and make another run. All they need to do is stay healthy.

Originally posted by JustinMT:
I think Smith is opting out so I doubt they'll resign him.

They should let him go. Find a more reliable spot-up shooter instead.

Originally posted by 4ML:


Kyrie is 6th best even though he played only 1 game and ppl keep saying Cavs were better without Kyrie lol

This is where I have a major problem with some of these advanced stats. NO ONE who watched this series would ever tell you that David Lee or Harrison Barnes played better than Tristan Thompson. Also, I dont think many think the Cavs were better without Kyrie. Just that it wouldnt have mattered in the end.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by 4ML:
They're not going to dump Kevin Love. Cavs were 32-3 in the last 35 games Lebron, Irving, and Love played together.

Should sign a back-up PG and a perimeter defender who can shoot 3s and go for it again. If they stay healthy - they got the best chance of winning in 2016.

Agree. They invested so much in trading for Love. Gave up Wiggins to get him. Can't get rid of him after one year, he is part of the solution and I think he'll definitely choose to return.

Cavs have a legit Big 3. Fill out the rest of the roster with defensive and shooting specialists and make another run. All they need to do is stay healthy.

I never liked that trade - but after the all-star break - Love had finally started to gel with the team.

They need to add a back-up point and as you mentioned another defensive specialist who can shoot - and if they bring the core back - I think they will be right there with the Warriors with top offense next year.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:


Kyrie is 6th best even though he played only 1 game and ppl keep saying Cavs were better without Kyrie lol

This is where I have a major problem with some of these advanced stats. NO ONE who watched this series would ever tell you that David Lee or Harrison Barnes played better than Tristan Thompson. Also, I dont think many think the Cavs were better without Kyrie. Just that it wouldnt have mattered in the end.

Well, if you're doing things that don't show up in the box score - then yes - WARP (like most stats) will rank you lower.

WARP system seeks to evaluate players in the context of a team made up of them and four completely average players. The performance of this team is then compared to that of a team made up of four average players and one replacement-level player.

There are plenty of ppl who said Cavs were better off without Kyrie and Love in this series - which was obviously absurd. It's impossible to know whether it would have mattered or not - not debating that...because they didn't play so it's pointless to go into hypothetical. Staying healthy is part of the game.

My reason for posting that stat was to show just how awful Delly, JR, Shump, and James Jones were in this series.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by JustinMT:
I think Smith is opting out so I doubt they'll resign him.

They should let him go. Find a more reliable spot-up shooter instead.

Definitely. I want Wesley Mathews or Danny Green or DeMarre Carroll (though I think Carroll is going to be out of Cavs range).

Shaun Livingston was definitely Golden State's worst player in this series.