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Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
darn straight. the question used to be who will the next Jordan be. history gave us the answer, Kobe. He had that mentality, mamba mentality. His game even looked like Jordan's game. LBJ more in the Magic style of play imo. Should compare LBJ to Magic.
Yep, that's right. I know the debate is GOAT but yes LBJ compares highly to Magic more than anyone else.
Yea if Magic had 30k pts - he'd be GOAT too.
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Yeah Lebron wins in longetivity and stats (can anyone say Kareem is the GOAT over MJ with a straight face?) but Jordan was like what a 10 time scoring champ and has the highest scoring average in NBA history? He was also a 9 time NBA all defense 1st team (vs. Lebron's 5). Lebron was just never the killer that the alpha dog needs to be that MJ was (and even Kobe) when the stakes were highest. That killer instinct was born of a desire to always win at all costs. MJ 6-0 in the NBA Finals with 6 NBA Finals MVPs. Lebron doesn't have this mentality.
For some context, Jordan was 0-6 in the playoffs (without Pippen) against the 86 and 87 Celtics. The 86 Celtics were (and still are) considered one of the best teams ever. They were so good that year that Magic and the Lakers pussied out against the Rockets to avoid them in the Finals. Yet Jordan had some of his highest scoring playoff games against those Celtics including his infamous 63 point game. Pippen and Jordan were also curb-stomped by the Pistons for three straight years before finally getting over the hump. Meanwhile Lebron was cruising through a s**t-sorry EC. I'll give him a pass in 2007 and this year, and against the Durant-infused scumbag warriors but there's no excuse for losing to the Mavs in 2011 with a loaded roster and also putting up a dud against the Spurs for an encore performance in 2014.
Some more context - maybe have a winning record in reg szn - so you can avoid Celtics in rd 1.
Great desire to win at all costs but never won a series against a team that was better than his lol ok
Maybe a winning record in finals lolz
bc regular season lolz
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MJ actually averaged more assists per game then Scottie in both the postseason and Finals. Scottie was the point forward who started the offense but MJ was the one taking on the doubles and either putting up the rock or passing it off. The idea that Scottie was the better or more important player is laughable. You're talking about a guy who shot about 45 percent from the field, 27 percent from 3 and 70 percent from the line. There's a reason even when MJ was gone they were asking Kukoc to win the game for them while he pouted on the bench. He's a great player but a secondary one.
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Pippen is Lebron nut huggers favorite player
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Hmm listen to Phil or
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on Twitter. Tough choice.
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I'm going to stick with stats/ analysis opposed to what a coach with who knows why
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Hmm listen to Phil or
on Twitter. Tough choice.
Phil also doesn't watch nba games anymore because of anti racist messaging
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 4ML:
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literally nobody believes this lol
Lol nobody believes what? Phil said those things. He also said Pip was the 2nd best player in the league. Bird said Pippen was 5th best player in the league without Mike and when he was playing next to Mike - them two together became the 2 best players in the league. Kerr said Pippen was the best defender in the league and should be the 2nd highest paid player in the league.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Phil also doesn't watch nba games anymore because of anti racist messaging
Great point if I'm quoting him on social issues.
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Finals record
Lechoke 22-33
MJ 24-11
kobe 23-14
Duncan 23-11
lolz