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2017 NBA Off-Season Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Renouncing Lopez means next year when Lopez becomes FA - he'll have a cap hold of 150% of what he makes this season. All Lakers have to tell him is - we are not re-signing you and we renounce you. They don't have to do anything else. He's an exipiring contract.

...and I don't see much difference in Mozgov and Deng's contract or performance. Someone will take Deng if you attach picks. And a lot of things get "reported" during this time. It'll be stupid of Lakers to let go of Randle imho...especially for PG who will sign with them anyway.


It took the Lakers trading Russell for someone to take Mozgov's contract. A guy who was the #2 pick in the draft 2 years ago. Do you believe that they didnt first try to pawn off Clarkson or Randle on the Nets before giving up one of their most valuable trade chips in Russell?


Like I said, if the Lakers want to throw in Ingram, someone will take Deng off their hands, no doubt.


But for two late 1st rounders? Not a chance in hell, especially since those picks are currently being offered to Indy for PG. Deng is just a contract that the Lakers will have to eat for a couple years.

...and Lakers tried to trade D'Lo for a lottery pick and couldn't find a partner. D'Lo's stock wasn't very high. Plus, Nets gave an expiring contact and a late 1st back too. Lopez is an asset since he's in the last year.

Now, for example - if you're Atlanta - going into full rebuild mode and with s**t load of cap room - you can absorb Deng's contract and take 2 late 1st rounders and give back expiring contracts to Lakers. This is a deep draft - you never know you may find a decent starter or solid off the bench player.
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and Lakers tried to trade D'Lo for a lottery pick and couldn't find a partner. D'Lo's stock wasn't very high. Plus, Nets gave an expiring contact and a late 1st back too. Lopez is an asset since he's in the last year.

Now, for example - if you're Atlanta - going into full rebuild mode and with s**t load of cap room - you can absorb Deng's contract and take 2 late 1st rounders and give back expiring contracts to Lakers. This is a deep draft - you never know you may find a decent starter or solid off the bench player.


And Russell's value still was significantly higher than that of Clarkson or Randle.



Atlanta dumped Howard because they want to try and keep Milsap without blowing up their payroll.



With Hinkie out of the NBA, no team is going to eat $50+ mil in salary obligations just for two late 1st rounders that most likely will turn out to be back of the rotation players. Ain't happening.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jun 21, 2017 at 10:07 AM ]
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who is snitching?

Originally posted by MuggD:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Or continue plowing his string of groupies here in LA. My ex's roomate is part of his lil clan. Its hilarious. Trains are run, all white chicks, pretty gross stuff.


Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Chad Ford @chadfordinsider

Celtics finally received Josh Jackson's medicals, but he still won't workout for Boston. C's still debating but appear to be leaning Tatum



tatum has been kind of the overlooked top 5 guy, but he is a stud. I'm much higher on him then Jackson. To be honest, I think Jackson will be really raw and take a while to get going on the offensive end. Maybe never. There is bust potential.

Tatum is going to be really, really good.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Lol Pacers aren't trading for late 1st round picks for George.

2 late 1st round picks + Randle is about as good as it gets for Indy at this point. They f**ked up by not taking Boston's offer at the trade deadline and now they have markedly less leverage with it known that George indeed wants out.

No it's not. We have seen teams in same situation receive more in compensation .
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
who is snitching?


First name came up JR Smith lol. Honestly I think it might be Kyrie. He and Jimmy are close friends.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
No it's not. We have seen teams in same situation receive more in compensation .

Nobody is giving Indy much at this point for a guy who appears to be all in on the Lakers. At best Indy might get Love from Cleveland but it depends on how big of an improvement they see him being.
Originally posted by sacniner:
tatum has been kind of the overlooked top 5 guy, but he is a stud. I'm much higher on him then Jackson. To be honest, I think Jackson will be really raw and take a while to get going on the offensive end. Maybe never. There is bust potential.

Tatum is going to be really, really good.


Jackson has been my favorite prospect for the Suns for awhile. I see another Shawn Marion with an equally f**ked up looking shot. Not so excited about Tatum who I don't think has nearly the same ceiling.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
No it's not. We have seen teams in same situation receive more in compensation .

Nobody is giving Indy much at this point for a guy who appears to be all in on the Lakers. At best Indy might get Love from Cleveland but it depends on how big of an improvement they see him being.

I still believe it will be Randle, 27, and 28 as a minimum.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I still believe it will be Randle, 27, and 28 as a minimum.

Same. I think that deal makes sense for everyone. Randle isn't long for the Lakers anyways.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
No it's not. We have seen teams in same situation receive more in compensation .

Nobody is giving Indy much at this point for a guy who appears to be all in on the Lakers. At best Indy might get Love from Cleveland but it depends on how big of an improvement they see him being.

Carmelo was all in for the Knicks and Love said he was going to Cleveland and they all got compensated for much more
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Carmelo was all in for the Knicks and Love said he was going to Cleveland and they all got compensated for much more

Well that was then and this is now.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
tatum has been kind of the overlooked top 5 guy, but he is a stud. I'm much higher on him then Jackson. To be honest, I think Jackson will be really raw and take a while to get going on the offensive end. Maybe never. There is bust potential.

Tatum is going to be really, really good.


Jackson has been my favorite prospect for the Suns for awhile. I see another Shawn Marion with an equally f**ked up looking shot. Not so excited about Tatum who I don't think has nearly the same ceiling.

I think you may be underestimating Tatum. He is a better offensive player than Jackson right now in my opinion and probably more of an immediate impact. It would be a tough call between the 2 but Boston will take one of them anyway.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
No it's not. We have seen teams in same situation receive more in compensation .

Nobody is giving Indy much at this point for a guy who appears to be all in on the Lakers. At best Indy might get Love from Cleveland but it depends on how big of an improvement they see him being.

Carmelo was all in for the Knicks and Love said he was going to Cleveland and they all got compensated for much more

I don't think Love said he will go to Cleveland. Boston was a real possibility for him as well as Chicago.

And...Knicks are dumb.
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