2017 NBA Off-Season Thread

Originally posted by 4ML:
I don't think Love said he will go to Cleveland. Boston was a real possibility for him as well as Chicago.

And...Knicks are dumb.

I think this is non debatable

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:
tatum has been kind of the overlooked top 5 guy, but he is a stud. I'm much higher on him then Jackson. To be honest, I think Jackson will be really raw and take a while to get going on the offensive end. Maybe never. There is bust potential.

Tatum is going to be really, really good.

Jackson has been my favorite prospect for the Suns for awhile. I see another Shawn Marion with an equally f**ked up looking shot. Not so excited about Tatum who I don't think has nearly the same ceiling.

I think you may be underestimating Tatum. He is a better offensive player than Jackson right now in my opinion and probably more of an immediate impact. It would be a tough call between the 2 but Boston will take one of them anyway.

At this point, I guess the proverbial ceiling is higher for Jackson, although, one could easily agure the highest SF ceiling is Isaacs. Tatum is an absolute stud on offense with the complete package. Well coached kid.

I think Ainge will trade the three and move back.. if not, he'll take Tatum.

Originally posted by sacniner:

At this point, I guess the proverbial ceiling is higher for Jackson, although, one could easily agure the highest SF ceiling is Isaacs. Tatum is an absolute stud on offense with the complete package. Well coached kid.

I think Ainge will trade the three and move back.. if not, he'll take Tatum.

As a Suns fan I am perfectly content with that. Jackson, Isaac and Fox have been my favorites at #4. Jackson doesn't have the offensive talent of Tatum but the Suns badly need someone who can defend at the wing, that is where Jackson would make his greatest impact.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:
At this point, I guess the proverbial ceiling is higher for Jackson, although, one could easily agure the highest SF ceiling is Isaacs. Tatum is an absolute stud on offense with the complete package. Well coached kid.

I think Ainge will trade the three and move back.. if not, he'll take Tatum.

As a Suns fan I am perfectly content with that. Jackson, Isaac and Fox have been my favorites at #4. Jackson doesn't have the offensive talent of Tatum but the Suns badly need someone who can defend at the wing, that is where Jackson would make his greatest impact.

Yeah, Jackson does seem to be a good fit. You guys have Bledsoe who put up big numbers last year, and the kid from Kentucky (Knight is there, but his career went downhill). Pair that up with Booker, that is a good backcourt.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Yeah, Jackson does seem to be a good fit. You guys have Bledsoe who put up big numbers last year, and the kid from Kentucky (Knight is there, but his career went downhill). Pair that up with Booker, that is a good backcourt.

Knight is a goner, they will take whatever a team can give for him, a 2nd rounder in 2025...whatever.


Davon Reed out of Miami is someone they seem to like a lot as a 3 and D type backup for Booker with their late 1st rounder.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Yeah, Jackson does seem to be a good fit. You guys have Bledsoe who put up big numbers last year, and the kid from Kentucky (Knight is there, but his career went downhill). Pair that up with Booker, that is a good backcourt.

Knight is a goner, they will take whatever a team can give for him, a 2nd rounder in 2025...whatever.


Davon Reed out of Miami is someone they seem to like a lot as a 3 and D type backup for Booker with their late 1st rounder.

Are the desperate enough to send 4/Knight for 10/filler (Affalo who can be waived)?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Are the desperate enough to send 4/Knight for 10/filler (Affalo who can be waived)?

f**k no.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Are the desperate enough to send 4/Knight for 10/filler (Affalo who can be waived)?

f**k no.

Well f**k them

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Are the desperate enough to send 4/Knight for 10/filler (Affalo who can be waived)?

f**k no.

lol That would be insanity. The Suns are going to get a real good player at 4. My guess is Jackson but it truly comes down to what Boston does.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

lol That would be insanity. The Suns are going to get a real good player at 4. My guess is Jackson but it truly comes down to what Boston does.

Jackson, Tatum or Fox. What Boston does pretty much determines what Phoenix and Sacramento will do.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

lol That would be insanity. The Suns are going to get a real good player at 4. My guess is Jackson but it truly comes down to what Boston does.

Jackson, Tatum or Fox. What Boston does pretty much determines what Phoenix and Sacramento will do.

Will be surprised if they draft Jackson without him working out for them. I think Tatum makes sense for them.

Suns are in great place. Josh Jackson is going to be awesome. At worst - he'll be a terrific defender and a great slasher...and Fox may turn out to be the best PG in the draft.

Btw...is Lonzo to Lakers pretty much a done deal?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Well f**k them

Originally posted by DRnSFw:

who is snitching?

Report: Cavaliers players started telling Jimmy Butler to stay away from Cleveland https://t.co/idE1ndmSh9

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 21, 2017

That report makes zero sense lol

Originally posted by 4ML:
Will be surprised if they draft Jackson without him working out for them. I think Tatum makes sense for them.

Suns are in great place. Josh Jackson is going to be awesome. At worst - he'll be a terrific defender and a great slasher...and Fox may turn out to be the best PG in the draft.

Btw...is Lonzo to Lakers pretty much a done deal?

Yeah, especially after that Russell deal. On the radio they were talking about the BS smokescreens that Ball had a really poor workout or whatever when they've coveted him all along.

Out here people are psyched about the possibility of the Suns getting Jackson, the Shawn Marion comparisons have been coming fast and furious. He was incredibly popular as a Sun so its not surprising fans would love Phoenix adding a similar kind of prospect.

Fox would be a very good fit for the Kings if things went down that way as well. I love the speed and defensive intensity he brings to the court, wouldn't be shocked at all to see him turn out to be the best PG that comes out of this draft down the road.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
lol That would be insanity. The Suns are going to get a real good player at 4. My guess is Jackson but it truly comes down to what Boston does.

Jackson, Tatum or Fox. What Boston does pretty much determines what Phoenix and Sacramento will do.

Will be surprised if they draft Jackson without him working out for them. I think Tatum makes sense for them.

Suns are in great place. Josh Jackson is going to be awesome. At worst - he'll be a terrific defender and a great slasher...and Fox may turn out to be the best PG in the draft.

Btw...is Lonzo to Lakers pretty much a done deal?

Yep. I think Boston takes Tatum, Phoenix takes Jackson, and Sacramento gets a steal at 5 with Fox. Given the trade of Russell I would guess that Lonzo to LA is pretty much a done deal but I would love it if they selected Fox instead just to see Lavar's reaction.

Never know about Boston though. I remember a certain kid named Steph Curry who wouldnt work out for the Warriors and they selected him anyway. Worked out alright.