2017 NBA Off-Season Thread

Originally posted by crabman82:

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
Cavs and Celtics on verge of a deal: Kyrie Irving for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and 2018 Nets pick unprotected, sources say

Wow that's a great deal for CLE

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

The Celtics just bent over for the Cavs WTF

I wouldnt say that. Cle getting nets unprotected 2018 1st rounder

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

The Celtics just bent over for the Cavs WTF

I wouldnt say that. Cle getting nets unprotected 2018 1st rounder

You're right, they didn't bend over.

They stripped themselves down and spread their own cheeks.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The Celtics just bent over for the Cavs WTF

I wouldnt say that. Cle getting nets unprotected 2018 1st rounder

You're right, they didn't bend over.

They stripped themselves down and spread their own cheeks.

So the Celtics go from...

IT / Bradley / Crowder / Johnson / Horford

To...

Irving / Brown / Hayward / Morris / Horford

And the Cavs go from...

Irving / Smith / Lebron / Love / Thompson

To...

IT / Smith / Lebron / Love / Thompson

I'd say that trade works for both parties, and in the Celtics case they arguably better than last season lineup wise. In the Cavs case they get Crowder who is a good defensive player and if they get Tatum or Brooklyn's pick next year that sets them up well if/when Lebron leaves (e.g. Thomas / Smith? / Crowder or Tatum / Love / Thompson - plus whoever the Brooklyn pick nets them.

Two years of Kyrie Irving, who doesn't even want to be in Cleveland, for a star point guard, one of the best contracts in the league, and a top 5 pick in 2018.

How anyone could say this is anything but highway robbery is beyond me. Cavs won this trade by a mile and a half.

Wtf was that boston.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Two years of Kyrie Irving, who doesn't even want to be in Cleveland, for a star point guard, one of the best contracts in the league, and a top 5 pick in 2018.

How anyone could say this is anything but highway robbery is beyond me. Cavs won this trade by a mile and a half.

Lulz i read ur original comment as boston bending over clev. My bad

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

You're right, they didn't bend over.

They stripped themselves down and spread their own cheeks.

The Celtics are getting an all star point guard in Irving, plus still have a lot of assets minus the Brooklyn pick (if they give it up) or the talent they send the Cavs way.

Irving / Brown / Hayward / Morris / Horford

That's arguably a better line up than last year's starting lineup. If Wades bought out they could try to persuade him to join them. And next summer if they've got decent cap space they could add another piece, for example imagine if they could form a big three of Irving - Hayward - Cousins, or could do a trade that lands them Davis to join Hayward and Irving. They're getting no worse.

Granted the Brooklyn pick has a lot of value if they suck and it lands first overall again, but who knows, if the Nets do better than expected (remember they've no incentive to lose) then that picks value goes down. Likewise if they throw Tatum to them instead of the pick, maybe he becomes a star, but equally he might just be a decent forward. It's worth the risk to acquire an all star. I appreciate that IT is an all star but he needs a new deal and perhaps they're reluctant to pay him hence this deal.

I don't think they are getting robbed.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Two years of Kyrie Irving, who doesn't even want to be in Cleveland, for a star point guard, one of the best contracts in the league, and a top 5 pick in 2018.

How anyone could say this is anything but highway robbery is beyond me. Cavs won this trade by a mile and a half.

IT has one year left and will demand a max deal. Is he really worth a max deal?

Also, no guarantee that pick lands in the top five. The Nets have no incentive to lose, and while I don't see them as a play off team, if they manage 30 plus wins that pick could easily end up being around 10th overall depending on how the lottery works out.

Either dubs beating either of those asses in June

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Two years of Kyrie Irving, who doesn't even want to be in Cleveland, for a star point guard, one of the best contracts in the league, and a top 5 pick in 2018.

How anyone could say this is anything but highway robbery is beyond me. Cavs won this trade by a mile and a half.

Completely agree with this.

Originally posted by Mike1989:

Also, no guarantee that pick lands in the top five. The Nets have no incentive to lose, and while I don't see them as a play off team, if they manage 30 plus wins that pick could easily end up being around 10th overall depending on how the lottery works out.

Dont be ridiculous. There is no way the Nets will have the 10th pick.

I think this is good trade for the Cavs at the same time securing their future with the 1st rd. from the Nets. Not sure why the Celtics did this? They shoulda made an offer for Marc Gasol. I think Grizzlies woulda consider a nets 2018 1st rd. and Jae Crowder. I mean Irving is better than IT but not a 1st rd. and Jae Crowder.

Wow, I still can't believe Kyrie asked for a trade. The Cavs are no longer a threat w/o Kyrie.