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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by nothing03:
I shoulda stated it much better. Much worst defensIvely.
Originally posted by Hopper:
IT is much worse defensively though. He's so limited defensively mainly because of size.
Well, you guys are both wrong. "Much worse?" No. Sorry.
DRPM:
Kyrie 69th out of 80
IT 80th out of 80
They are both horrendous defenders. Period.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by nothing03:
I shoulda stated it much better. Much worst defensIvely.
Originally posted by Hopper:
IT is much worse defensively though. He's so limited defensively mainly because of size.
Well, you guys are both wrong. "Much worse?" No. Sorry.
DRPM:
Kyrie 69th out of 80
IT 80th out of 80
They are both horrendous defenders. Period.
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Irving was -2.30 while IT was -3.89 last season. That's a pretty big gap and I think the true gap between them defensively is bigger than that. Not to mention IT is 28 (more than 3 years older than Irving) and 5'9 and is only going to get worse defensively.
DRPM is a little inconsistent year to year (Thomas finished ahead of Irving in 2015-2016), but Thomas is consistently a very bad defender and teams pick on him defensively. He has a nice PER, but he's not even close to being a top 5 PG in the league.
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:I love the trade for both teams for different reasons. Man I can't wait to see the Boston - Cleveland Eastern Conference Finals Series.
I would bet on Boston, what say you guys?
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by nothing03:
I shoulda stated it much better. Much worst defensIvely.
Originally posted by Hopper:
IT is much worse defensively though. He's so limited defensively mainly because of size.
Well, you guys are both wrong. "Much worse?" No. Sorry.
DRPM:
Kyrie 69th out of 80
IT 80th out of 80
They are both horrendous defenders. Period.
Irving was -2.30 while IT was -3.89 last season. That's a pretty big gap and I think the true gap between them defensively is bigger than that. Not to mention IT is 28 (more than 3 years older than Irving) and 5'9 and is only going to get worse defensively.
DRPM is a little inconsistent year to year (Thomas finished ahead of Irving in 2015-2016), but Thomas is consistently a very bad defender and teams pick on him defensively. He has a nice PER, but he's not even close to being a top 5 PG in the league.
Originally posted by Zachary:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
I love the trade for both teams for different reasons. Man I can't wait to see the Boston - Cleveland Eastern Conference Finals Series.
I would bet on Boston, what say you guys?
I'll bet you $500 cavs over Boston lol
Originally posted by nothing03:
This no way Boston beating the Cavs this year. Actually when you think about it the Cavs got deeper with the addition of D. Rose, Crowder, and Jeff Green. . People forget Boston lost their best defender Bradley. Brown and Tatum are too young to make an impact against the Cavs.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Wow, I still can't believe Kyrie asked for a trade. The Cavs are no longer a threat w/o Kyrie.
You dont think a team that has Lebron, IT, Love, Thompson, and Crowder are no longer a threat? That is a huge LOL. Of course they are a threat and can easily win the East.
This was a nice trade for the Cavs primarily because of the Nets pick. They need to build for the future and getting that top 5 pick is big for the organization. Losing Irving hurts but they did well to get 2 very good players to step in right now and secure a pick for down the road.
Andddddd ITOriginally posted by nothing03:Originally posted by Zachary:Originally posted by Kalen49ers:I love the trade for both teams for different reasons. Man I can't wait to see the Boston - Cleveland Eastern Conference Finals Series.
I would bet on Boston, what say you guys?
I'll bet you $500 cavs over Boston lol
This no way Boston beating the Cavs this year. Actually when you think about it the Cavs got deeper with the addition of D. Rose, Crowder, and Jeff Green. . People forget Boston lost their best defender Bradley. Brown and Tatum are too young to make an impact against the Cavs.
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by mayo49:Wow, I still can't believe Kyrie asked for a trade. The Cavs are no longer a threat w/o Kyrie.
You dont think a team that has Lebron, IT, Love, Thompson, and Crowder are no longer a threat? That is a huge LOL. Of course they are a threat and can easily win the East.
This was a nice trade for the Cavs primarily because of the Nets pick. They need to build for the future and getting that top 5 pick is big for the organization. Losing Irving hurts but they did well to get 2 very good players to step in right now and secure a pick for down the road.
They'll still be good, but not enough to challenge the Warriors.
Originally posted by nothing03:Originally posted by Zachary:Originally posted by Kalen49ers:I love the trade for both teams for different reasons. Man I can't wait to see the Boston - Cleveland Eastern Conference Finals Series.
I would bet on Boston, what say you guys?
I'll bet you $500 cavs over Boston lol
This no way Boston beating the Cavs this year. Actually when you think about it the Cavs got deeper with the addition of D. Rose, Crowder, and Jeff Green. . People forget Boston lost their best defender Bradley. Brown and Tatum are too young to make an impact against the Cavs.