2017 NBA Off-Season Thread

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Cleveland-Boston trade might get voided due to IT's hip injury

I'm done. This is the greatest offseason in professional sports history. And we don't even know what's going to happen with Melo yet.

Time to add Tatum or Jaylen Brown in the trade

Celtics fans putting back on their IT jerseys like

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Cleveland-Boston trade might get voided due to IT's hip injury

I'm done. This is the greatest offseason in professional sports history. And we don't even know what's going to happen with Melo yet.

Ainge lol

My guess is IT needs surgery on that hip.

Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

Crowder plus the pick is enough imo. The Nets "may" be better but it'll still be a lottery pick or great trade material around the deadline to get a really nice rental.

Kyrie is done with Cleveland and I just don't see a much better deal happening.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Cleveland-Boston trade might get voided due to IT's hip injury

I'm done. This is the greatest offseason in professional sports history. And we don't even know what's going to happen with Melo yet.

Ainge lol

My guess is IT needs surgery on that hip.

Yup I bet the Celtics didn't provide that information to the Cavs when they agreed on the trade. There's a chance Celtics lied how healthy IT. I heard he might miss sometime this upcoming season.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

That's ridiculous. 4 months into the season and hope he comes back in regular form and hope he just meshes with the team on offense (because he can't play a lick of defense)?...BOS needs to add another asset or no deal.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Crowder plus the pick is enough imo. The Nets "may" be better but it'll still be a lottery pick or great trade material around the deadline to get a really nice rental.

Kyrie is done with Cleveland and I just don't see a much better deal happening.

Crowder and a lotto for a championship caliber "superstar" on a team ready to win now is a good deal??? stop it. Giving up 25 points per game for 13 and an asset that may or may not turn out to be good benefits the Cavs how?

Originally posted by 4ML:
Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

I wouldnt. Boston is drooling over the prospect of getting Kyrie. They will add more to get him I'm guessing and Cleveland should force the issue

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

I wouldnt. Boston is drooling over the prospect of getting Kyrie. They will add more to get him I'm guessing and Cleveland should force the issue

I think if cavs press the issue they will blow this trade. The reason why this has gotten as close as it has vs other rumors is because the Cavs don't really have all the leverage some believe they do.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Tbh...unless it's long term - I still do the deal if I'm Cavs.

Jae Crowder is hell of a player and if IT can be 100% by Feb. I'm taking this deal easily.

I wouldnt. Boston is drooling over the prospect of getting Kyrie. They will add more to get him I'm guessing and Cleveland should force the issue

I think if cavs press the issue they will blow this trade. The reason why this has gotten as close as it has vs other rumors is because the Cavs don't really have all the leverage some believe they do.

NO WAY is this trade fair if Thomas flunks the physical. Crowder and a #1 isnt close to being enough for Irving. The Cavs do have leverage because they dont have to trade Irving and they have by far the best player in the deal. We shall see how much Boston wants Kyrie. I think they will surrender at least another first rounder.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

NO WAY is this trade fair if Thomas flunks the physical. Crowder and a #1 isnt close to being enough for Irving. The Cavs do have leverage because they dont have to trade Irving and they have by far the best player in the deal. We shall see how much Boston wants Kyrie. I think they will surrender at least another first rounder.

This. BOS wants Kyrie BAD and they will have to pony up another asset, period.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

The Cavs do have leverage because they dont have to trade Irving and they have by far the best player in the deal.

Are you accounting for the injury? Because taking that out of the equation, IT actually put up better numbers than Kyrie last season. I don't think Kyrie is "by far" better than IT. That's the main reason I (and the vast majority of people) felt that the trade was extremely lopsided when it was first announced. Before the injury seemed significant, it seemed like the Cavs were getting an equivalent player in IT and then Crowder and a top 5 pick on top of it.

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

NO WAY is this trade fair if Thomas flunks the physical. Crowder and a #1 isnt close to being enough for Irving. The Cavs do have leverage because they dont have to trade Irving and they have by far the best player in the deal. We shall see how much Boston wants Kyrie. I think they will surrender at least another first rounder.

This. BOS wants Kyrie BAD and they will have to pony up another asset, period.

You guys have swayed me.

Throw in Jaylen Brown or Lakers pick

Doubt IT and Crowder want to be part of Celtics anymore. Celtics will have to pay IT to mak him happy now. Cavs have even more leverage at this moment.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The Cavs do have leverage because they dont have to trade Irving and they have by far the best player in the deal.

Are you accounting for the injury? Because taking that out of the equation, IT actually put up better numbers than Kyrie last season. I don't think Kyrie is "by far" better than IT. That's the main reason I (and the vast majority of people) felt that the trade was extremely lopsided when it was first announced. Before the injury seemed significant, it seemed like the Cavs were getting an equivalent player in IT and then Crowder and a top 5 pick on top of it.

Kyrie is by far the more valuable player in the deal regardless of the injury. He is 3 years younger and has multiple years left on his deal. Plus he isnt 5'9" He is an Olympian, an NBA Finals star that made the key shot to win the title, a #1 pick in the NBA draft, and not someone who has been traded 3 times.

I dont think the vast majority of people thought the trade was extremely lopsided at all. .Most people thought Cleveland did a good job getting as much as they could for a perennial All Star who had demanded a trade. I agreed with this IF Thomas was 100% healthy. But if he is injured, there is no way this is a fair deal.