NBA PLAYOFFS 2017-2018 Thread

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

Alright, Im down. I got Dubs over Rockets

Originally posted by Joecool:
TP and Manu gone after this year. We hung onto them two years too long. I think once they are gone, then Kawhi comes back with the team being 100% his.

LOL at lul like the Lakers. This team made the playoffs without Kawhi. With Murray looking promising, what makes you think we don't make the playoffs next year?

Bro, you're in denial. Kawhi ain't coming back lol

Who will be on the team next year? An older, even less athletic Aldridge? An older Gay? You guys are done. Rebuild time.

Lets just get to Warriors Rockets already and get to the offseason/Football season. The Eastern conf playoffs don't matter.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:
TP and Manu gone after this year. We hung onto them two years too long. I think once they are gone, then Kawhi comes back with the team being 100% his.

LOL at lul like the Lakers. This team made the playoffs without Kawhi. With Murray looking promising, what makes you think we don't make the playoffs next year?

Bro, you're in denial. Kawhi ain't coming back lol

Who will be on the team next year? An older, even less athletic Aldridge? An older Gay? You guys are done. Rebuild time.

If Pop stays, they will still be a competitive team, probably a 7-8 seed. But that window has pretty much closed, as far as being a championship team. They should go in rebuild more here soon. I don't see Kawhi back either. Best option would be to trade him to the Celtics or 76ers since they have a lot of assets.

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
If Pop stays, they will still be a competitive team, probably a 7-8 seed. But that window has pretty much closed, as far as being a championship team. They should go in rebuild more here soon. I don't see Kawhi back either. Best option would be to trade him to the Celtics or 76ers since they have a lot of assets.

As currently constructed, they won't make the playoffs next year IMO. Pop can only do so much. Their best player next year may be Patty Mills. Aldridge is a shell of the guy in Portland. Rudy is more of a bench guy at this point in his career post achilles. I guess Murray may turn into a stud, but that is far from guaranteed. Manu and TP will probably be gone.

Their only chance of staying relevant is hitting the Kawhi trade out of the park.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

As many have already alluded to, you can do a quick search and find stats on his efficiency. His efficiency in basically every category has improved:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21742270/nba-stepback-3-cheat-code-made-james-harden-virtually-unguardable

If you need specific stats about his stepback compared to other years, I'm not sure I can find that specifically, but all you have to do is use your eyes and see that he's shooting a blistering percentage with that shot and taking it at a much higher rate, and improving in every offensive category. As I've said before, if the Warriors think they will contain him with Klay and Iggy and Dray, they are in deep doodoo.

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

As many have already alluded to, you can do a quick search and find stats on his efficiency. His efficiency in basically every category has improved:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21742270/nba-stepback-3-cheat-code-made-james-harden-virtually-unguardable

If you need specific stats about his stepback compared to other years, I'm not sure I can find that specifically, but all you have to do is use your eyes and see that he's shooting a blistering percentage with that shot and taking it at a much higher rate, and improving in every offensive category. As I've said before, if the Warriors think they will contain him with Klay and Iggy and Dray, they are in deep doodoo.

Are you saying that Daddy StepBack is taking his team to the Ship just because of this one weapon in his arsenal? Haha.

Wouldn't it be funny though if he hit a buzzer beating step back to win a series vs. the Warriors if they do meet up?

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:
TP and Manu gone after this year. We hung onto them two years too long. I think once they are gone, then Kawhi comes back with the team being 100% his.

LOL at lul like the Lakers. This team made the playoffs without Kawhi. With Murray looking promising, what makes you think we don't make the playoffs next year?

Bro, you're in denial. Kawhi ain't coming back lol

Who will be on the team next year? An older, even less athletic Aldridge? An older Gay? You guys are done. Rebuild time.

If Pop stays, they will still be a competitive team, probably a 7-8 seed. But that window has pretty much closed, as far as being a championship team. They should go in rebuild more here soon. I don't see Kawhi back either. Best option would be to trade him to the Celtics or 76ers since they have a lot of assets.

Unless you are one of the two super teams, or have Lebron, a team can only be competitive.

Originally posted by 49erminion:

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

As many have already alluded to, you can do a quick search and find stats on his efficiency. His efficiency in basically every category has improved:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21742270/nba-stepback-3-cheat-code-made-james-harden-virtually-unguardable

If you need specific stats about his stepback compared to other years, I'm not sure I can find that specifically, but all you have to do is use your eyes and see that he's shooting a blistering percentage with that shot and taking it at a much higher rate, and improving in every offensive category. As I've said before, if the Warriors think they will contain him with Klay and Iggy and Dray, they are in deep doodoo.

Are you saying that Daddy StepBack is taking his team to the Ship just because of this one weapon in his arsenal? Haha.

Wouldn't it be funny though if he hit a buzzer beating step back to win a series vs. the Warriors if they do meet up?

lol, it would be hilarious. But honestly, it's not just that one weapon. He used to be forced into taking that shot because it was the best way to stop him; there's a reason why he worked tirelessly on it. Props to him (and no it's not a travel).

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by 49erminion:

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

As many have already alluded to, you can do a quick search and find stats on his efficiency. His efficiency in basically every category has improved:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21742270/nba-stepback-3-cheat-code-made-james-harden-virtually-unguardable

If you need specific stats about his stepback compared to other years, I'm not sure I can find that specifically, but all you have to do is use your eyes and see that he's shooting a blistering percentage with that shot and taking it at a much higher rate, and improving in every offensive category. As I've said before, if the Warriors think they will contain him with Klay and Iggy and Dray, they are in deep doodoo.

Are you saying that Daddy StepBack is taking his team to the Ship just because of this one weapon in his arsenal? Haha.

Wouldn't it be funny though if he hit a buzzer beating step back to win a series vs. the Warriors if they do meet up?

lol, it would be hilarious. But honestly, it's not just that one weapon. He used to be forced into taking that shot because it was the best way to stop him; there's a reason why he worked tirelessly on it. Props to him (and no it's not a travel).

He might be unguardable if he mentally/physically gets to rest on D, but he's gonna have to play heavy minutes at playoff intensity and expend energy on both ends of the floor guarding an all star caliber player against the Warriors. Those 4th quarter stepbacks are gonna suffer because of it.

Originally posted by Arminini:
He might be unguardable if he mentally/physically gets to rest on D, but he's gonna have to play heavy minutes at playoff intensity and expend energy on both ends of the floor guarding an all star caliber player against the Warriors. Those 4th quarter stepbacks are gonna suffer because of it.

The fourth quarter is why I'm picking them. I think Harden iso is more reliable right now than anything the dubs have.

Originally posted by Arminini:

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by 49erminion:

Originally posted by binarythird:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by binarythird:
lol it's amazing how in denial many Warriors fans are about Harden and the Rockets this year. They have tunnel vision when it comes to the dubs, and I guess that's understandable given how great Curry really is.

Harden is just a different beast this year - the dubs used to FORCE him to take the stepback because they were afraid of him driving and getting people in foul trouble and getting easy points at the line...this year they will get pummeled if they try that. Additionally, the Rockets roster has been constructed to create maximum space for him, with shooters all over the court and a great lob outlet if help comes. It's a roster totally built around Harden's isolation skills. IMO, and just my opinion, they'll need more length to stop him this year, and McGee/Looney will have their hands full with the Capella lobs and putbacks.

Cash app is just through square, it's really easy you can just dl it from google play, super easy...lemme know if you don't want to use it...we can figure something out.

What is amazing is the fact that I asked you to provide simple statistics to back up your claims, and once again you have just provided me with more narrative and juicy adjectives to describe their play.

What is amazing is you say that Harden dominates everyone he plays and I give you statistics on how that hasnt happened against the Warriors the last two years....and you ignore that in favor again of more adjectives and stories.

I have watched the Rockets a lot this year. I know how good Harden is. He is hitting that stepback jumper more this year. I get that. You were talking about efficiency and how much he has improved that shot. All I want to know is if he improved it or he is simply taking way more of them.

No one is in denial about how good he is. But he was very good last year too. And the year before.

As many have already alluded to, you can do a quick search and find stats on his efficiency. His efficiency in basically every category has improved:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21742270/nba-stepback-3-cheat-code-made-james-harden-virtually-unguardable

If you need specific stats about his stepback compared to other years, I'm not sure I can find that specifically, but all you have to do is use your eyes and see that he's shooting a blistering percentage with that shot and taking it at a much higher rate, and improving in every offensive category. As I've said before, if the Warriors think they will contain him with Klay and Iggy and Dray, they are in deep doodoo.

Are you saying that Daddy StepBack is taking his team to the Ship just because of this one weapon in his arsenal? Haha.

Wouldn't it be funny though if he hit a buzzer beating step back to win a series vs. the Warriors if they do meet up?

lol, it would be hilarious. But honestly, it's not just that one weapon. He used to be forced into taking that shot because it was the best way to stop him; there's a reason why he worked tirelessly on it. Props to him (and no it's not a travel).

He might be unguardable if he mentally/physically gets to rest on D, but he's gonna have to play heavy minutes at playoff intensity and expend energy on both ends of the floor guarding an all star caliber player against the Warriors. Those 4th quarter stepbacks are gonna suffer because of it.

This is where CP3 comes in. In previous years Harden would exit, the team would go stagnant and he'd be forced to reenter early. CP3 taking the reigns while he gets a breather is why Harden has been better this season. He actually gets to rest.

My Wiz

1st round playoff basketball is nice if only for the frequency of games. But dam these games are boring AF right now.

And why do I have to wait an extra day to watch Cleveland implode?