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Apr 21, 2018 at 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
OKC is a joke, PG is leaving for the Lakers this summer leaving that ball hog Westbrook with a washed up Melo and a trash roster

Utah is very fricking good. I would say they are the 3rd best team in the league right now. Yes, I would take them over any team in the East in a series. I think its more about the Jazz playing really well than it is OKC being a joke.

A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

Apr 21, 2018 at 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Do you guys think Portland goes for a new HC?

Maybe but I dont think it is his fault that the Blazers have a faulty roster. They should probably fire the GM who hasnt drafted an impact player in years and gave massive contracts to guys like Evan Turner and Meyers Leonard

Exactlly. This isn't Stotts' fault. He just doesn't have the right pieces around Damien and CJ.

Apr 22, 2018 at 12:02 AM

#423

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Do you guys think Portland goes for a new HC?

Maybe but I dont think it is his fault that the Blazers have a faulty roster. They should probably fire the GM who hasnt drafted an impact player in years and gave massive contracts to guys like Evan Turner and Meyers Leonard

I agree Stotts is a good coach and the team isn't perfect - but you can't get swept as a 3rd seed in the 1st round.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fire Olshey but he's a well respected GM in the league. He drafted Lillard, CJ, and Crabb. That's pretty decent history. Nurkic trade was also a win for Blazers imho.

But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

Apr 22, 2018 at 1:11 AM

#424

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Originally posted by 4ML:
I agree Stotts is a good coach and the team isn't perfect - but you can't get swept as a 3rd seed in the 1st round.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fire Olshey but he's a well respected GM in the league. He drafted Lillard, CJ, and Crabb. That's pretty decent history. Nurkic trade was also a win for Blazers imho.

But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I'd keep Lillard, CJ has value. They caught a Pelican team that hit their peak and finally The Brow is in the National Spotlight. In the not too distant future I can see a 76er-Pelicans Championship matchup.

Apr 22, 2018 at 6:42 AM

#425

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Originally posted by DaBum:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
OKC is a joke, PG is leaving for the Lakers this summer leaving that ball hog Westbrook with a washed up Melo and a trash roster

Utah is very fricking good. I would say they are the 3rd best team in the league right now. Yes, I would take them over any team in the East in a series. I think its more about the Jazz playing really well than it is OKC being a joke.

A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

Yep. Any team led by Westbrook isn't winning anything.

Apr 22, 2018 at 8:23 AM

#426

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Originally posted by 4ML:

But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I would trade one of them if possible. They need a rangy defensive wing, and if he can shoot a little that is a plus. The question is, which one? I would lean toward trading Lillard.

Apr 22, 2018 at 9:03 AM

#427

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Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by 4ML:

But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I would trade one of them if possible. They need a rangy defensive wing, and if he can shoot a little that is a plus. The question is, which one? I would lean toward trading Lillard.

Reminds me of the Warriors several years ago. The Dubs made the right decision by keeping the guy who was an incredible, elite shooter and I think Portland should do that to and keep Lillard.

Apr 22, 2018 at 11:31 AM

#428

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Originally posted by 4ML:
But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I would trade one of them if possible. They need a rangy defensive wing, and if he can shoot a little that is a plus. The question is, which one? I would lean toward trading Lillard.

Reminds me of the Warriors several years ago. The Dubs made the right decision by keeping the guy who was an incredible, elite shooter and I think Portland should do that to and keep Lillard.

The NBA is all about finding and keeping superstars. Without them it's nearly impossible to win a title. Portland would be stupid to let him leave.

Apr 22, 2018 at 11:33 AM

#429

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Originally posted by DaBum:
A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

The beauty of a 7 game series is that there is no accidents. The better team will win.

Apr 22, 2018 at 11:36 AM

#430

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DaBum:
A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

The beauty of a 7 game series is that there is no accidents. The better team will win.

Except in the 2016 Finals

((Cleveland earned it though))

Apr 22, 2018 at 11:52 AM

#431

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by DaBum:
A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

The beauty of a 7 game series is that there is no accidents. The better team will win.

Except in the 2016 Finals

((Cleveland earned it though))

IMO the league hijacked that series by suspending Dreymond. They had to know it could directly affect the series, which is something you cant do. Suspend him for whatever amount you want the following season, or fine him a ton, but you cant screw with the dynamic mid series.

Apr 22, 2018 at 12:00 PM

#432

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by DaBum:
A team with Westbrook, PG, MeMO shouldn't get whooped by a rookie led team. Utah is good, very good, but OKC has as much talent as my Rockets and any team not in GS. There's just doesn't mesh well and Donovan is proving to be a coach unable to adapt to his roster.

Utah deserves credit but OKC should also be able to overcome. Westbrook is a rich mans Marbury. Supreme talent that doesn't work with other stars because his game has zero ability to work off the ball.

The beauty of a 7 game series is that there is no accidents. The better team will win.

Except in the 2016 Finals

((Cleveland earned it though))

IMO the league hijacked that series by suspending Dreymond. They had to know it could directly affect the series, which is something you cant do. Suspend him for whatever amount you want the following season, or fine him a ton, but you cant screw with the dynamic mid series.

League didn't suspend Draymond. If you accumulate certain no. of flagrant or technical fouls - you get automatic suspension.

Apr 22, 2018 at 12:02 PM

#433

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I'm pretty stunned NOP completely boat raced Portland. That was amazing.

Apr 22, 2018 at 12:02 PM

#434

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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by 4ML:

But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I would trade one of them if possible. They need a rangy defensive wing, and if he can shoot a little that is a plus. The question is, which one? I would lean toward trading Lillard.

Reminds me of the Warriors several years ago. The Dubs made the right decision by keeping the guy who was an incredible, elite shooter and I think Portland should do that to and keep Lillard.

At that stage - Curry was a young pup. Warriors decided to build around him. Lillard is 28 and it's too late to restart a build around him. He has also shown frustration and there were rumors he may demand a trade. This is the right time to trade him before his play falls off in 2-3 years.

It's not like Blazers can compete with Warriors over the next couple years. Right time to go for a rebuild with young players and Nurkic imho.

Apr 22, 2018 at 12:05 PM

#435

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by 4ML:
But, if I'm running the Blazers - I'm going for a rebuild. Trade Lillard and CJ and try to get two top 10 picks in this loaded draft.

You can't have a backcourt of two 6ft guys.

I would trade one of them if possible. They need a rangy defensive wing, and if he can shoot a little that is a plus. The question is, which one? I would lean toward trading Lillard.

Reminds me of the Warriors several years ago. The Dubs made the right decision by keeping the guy who was an incredible, elite shooter and I think Portland should do that to and keep Lillard.

The NBA is all about finding and keeping superstars. Without them it's nearly impossible to win a title. Portland would be stupid to let him leave.

Lot of stars will be available this off-season. You can find stars in the draft - especially as loaded as the 2018 draft will be.

It's better to trade a player a year too early than hold onto him a year too late. Lillard will eventually ask to be traded if Portland is not a real contender very soon - and with their cap situation, they're stuck with the players they have unless they reboot.