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When all is said and done the NBA GOAT is..........

When all is said and done the NBA GOAT is..........

Jordan has said he feels Russell is the GOAT since he won 9 titles in 11 years. It's about the rings to him and Lebron's 3-5 Finals record is probably not lost on him even if he won't publicly say it.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Can you provide a source for the quote, with date and some context?
Who were these plumbers you keep bringing up?

I watched basketball when Jordan played. Did you?

Holy s**t, you guys can't tell he was messing around? You think that he was serious with that quote?

I guess I should have figured he was messing aroung when he said Lebron > Jordan, lol, my bad.

Jordan is > then LBJ. But LBJ is getting close so not illogical to have that take

You should have figured that he was messing around by reading the quote, lol, yes your bad. Bad basketball takes
1. Jordan
2. James
3. Duncan
4. Bryant
5. O'Neal
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by jcs:
Like football the NBA in the 80's and 90's was not as soft as it is today. Thinking guys that show us great movement today would get away with that when you could hand check and essentially beat up anyone in the paint back then is ridiculous. Mike dominated an era when teams could essentially beat up your best player.

Let's not forget that Jordan got A LOT of calls when driving in the paint
He didn't have it easy like the stars today who get phantom calls on pull-up 3 pointers. Go watch the Bulls-Pistons playoff series in 89-90 on youtube and you'll see how much teams got away with in the paint on MJ.
[ Edited by jcs on May 23, 2018 at 2:31 PM ]
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by jcs:
Like football the NBA in the 80's and 90's was not as soft as it is today. Thinking guys that show us great movement today would get away with that when you could hand check and essentially beat up anyone in the paint back then is ridiculous. Mike dominated an era when teams could essentially beat up your best player.

Let's not forget that Jordan got A LOT of calls when driving in the paint
He didn't have it easy like the stars today who get phantom calls on pull-up 3 pointers. Go watch the Bulls-Pistons playoff series in 89-90 on youtube and you'll see how much teams got away with in the paint on MJ.

I'm not buying that argument against lebron. Lebron doesn't get the calls today that so many other players do because of how much of a physical freak he is. Shaq was the same way.
Originally posted by IT21:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by jcs:
Like football the NBA in the 80's and 90's was not as soft as it is today. Thinking guys that show us great movement today would get away with that when you could hand check and essentially beat up anyone in the paint back then is ridiculous. Mike dominated an era when teams could essentially beat up your best player.

Let's not forget that Jordan got A LOT of calls when driving in the paint
He didn't have it easy like the stars today who get phantom calls on pull-up 3 pointers. Go watch the Bulls-Pistons playoff series in 89-90 on youtube and you'll see how much teams got away with in the paint on MJ.

I'm not buying that argument against lebron. Lebron doesn't get the calls today that so many other players do because of how much of a physical freak he is. Shaq was the same way.

for sure. if he was called like everybody else, Shaq would've averaged 20 ft attempts a game....and made 5
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The goat poll needs to be updated, not enough great players mentioned.


1 Jordan
2 Russel

The rest really don't matter but here

3 kareem
4 magic
5 LeBron
6 shaq
7 Kobe
8 wilt
9 bird
10 Duncan
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
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also this. No one f**ked with that big ugly
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
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Dirtiest player ever.
Not sure how it's debatable. Once breaking the glass ceiling both of had 8 years now. MJ won 4 MVP's in those years and 6 titles while sitting out a year and a half. LeBron has won 2 MVP's in his last 8 years maybe 3 this year and while he's gotten to the championship series every year he's only won 3 times maybe 4 this year.

Doesn't matter how you break down MJ wins.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on May 28, 2018 at 7:21 AM ]
Originally posted by IT21:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by jcs:
Like football the NBA in the 80's and 90's was not as soft as it is today. Thinking guys that show us great movement today would get away with that when you could hand check and essentially beat up anyone in the paint back then is ridiculous. Mike dominated an era when teams could essentially beat up your best player.

Let's not forget that Jordan got A LOT of calls when driving in the paint
He didn't have it easy like the stars today who get phantom calls on pull-up 3 pointers. Go watch the Bulls-Pistons playoff series in 89-90 on youtube and you'll see how much teams got away with in the paint on MJ.

I'm not buying that argument against lebron. Lebron doesn't get the calls today that so many other players do because of how much of a physical freak he is. Shaq was the same way.

His natural build is an enormous blessing. Being able to dominate using his size far outweighs any disadvantage from foul calls.
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
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What Lebron did this last playoff series is something idt I've ever seen before. Straight up carried a team to win down so much in the series. If hes not the goat he's pretty damn close.
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