When all is said and done the NBA GOAT is..........

Originally posted by IT21:

Originally posted by niners94:

Originally posted by IT21:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

the "GOAT" doesn't s**t the bed in the NBA Finals the way LeBron did in 2011. He's lost 5 finals series (soon to be 6) in 9 attempts, in the that that's what everyone will remember and that Jordan was undefeated

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Na I remember him coming back from 3-1 to beat the best team in NBA history, but to each his own

Also got Green suspended by b***hing to the media.

And then beat the warriors on their home court with their full squad in game 7 but who remembers that

Killed momentum and they also lost their shot blocker. Just saying that series win wasn't as great as you say and he didn't even take the winning shot. If he drove and kicked the ball then it wouldn't matter, but Kyrie went iso. That should have been Lebron's shot.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

Ranks 3rd all-time in playoffs assists in league history and 16th in playoff assists per game at 7 per contest, highest for any non-PG... but he's not a playmaker, lolol.

I'm no LeBron lover, but the haters' arguments are so laughably bad.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:

Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Ranks 3rd all-time in playoffs assists in league history and 16th in playoff assists per game at 7 per contest, highest for any non-PG... but he's not a playmaker, lolol.

I'm no LeBron lover, but the haters' arguments are so laughably bad.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

Lol right? Sometimes I can't even respond to the lame arguments made against him

A below average player like Rodney hood doesn't mesh well with the Cavs and all the sudden lebron isnt a playmaker and makes those around him worse. Lmao. There are players that would've been out of the league and had their careers extended, and players that have made all star teams just because they had lebron as a teammate.

Originally posted by niners94:

Lebron beats this Warriors team, he will be the GOAT.

Nope. If LeBron beats the Warriors then three peats he'll be the GOAT. The bar is high and right now as impressive as his accomplishments are they're nowhere near Jordan's. He's f'd around and lost too much. When he went to Miami they're bragging about 6 rings, we all know it was possible and he got 2 in 4 years. It is what it is. He's underachieved to be GOAT.

Like with Brady, Montana though it's not hating to be 2nd or 3rd all time.

Nobody answered my question but mocked me surprisingly. Who has played better under Lebron? King Lebron who doesn't let a coach coach, a GM GM, or a team become a team because it's all about him. It's ok to prove me wrong by showing examples of who he made better. Crowder? No. George Hill? Regressed. Kyrie Irving? Led his new team to a better record. Love? Even. Hood? Sixth man to bench warmer. IT? Career ruined.

Keep in mind I'm not the one who said LBJ is not a playmaker, which he is. My entire point is that Lebron controls to much in the Cavs organization that it doesn't allow people to do their jobs. Cliche as hell but "There is no Lebron(I) in Team".

Edit: and just to be fair I think this is the one thing that keeps MJ ahead of LBJ. Guys like Kerr, KuKoc, Harper, Longley, Paxson all were good players that were allowed to elevate their games playing with Jordan and win rings. As I said in my OP Lebron was able to win 2 rings with Miami and he was elevating the guys around him, but with Cleveland he just has too much power which doesn't allow a team to play within a team.

Originally posted by Jiks:
Nobody answered my question but mocked me surprisingly. Who has played better under Lebron? King Lebron who doesn't let a coach coach, a GM GM, or a team become a team because it's all about him. It's ok to prove me wrong by showing examples of who he made better. Crowder? No. George Hill? Regressed. Kyrie Irving? Led his new team to a better record. Love? Even. Hood? Sixth man to bench warmer. IT? Career ruined.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

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Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

Playmaker make plays for other people and not score 30 a game, they also don't dominate possession of the ball and force other players to conform to their style of play.

His game is driving the basket, pulling in a double to get someone open in the perimeter... He's not organizing fast breaks, the half cort game or making those around him better. His selfish style of play literally drove one of the leagues best finishers to demand a trade away from him.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Nobody answered my question but mocked me surprisingly. Who has played better under Lebron? King Lebron who doesn't let a coach coach, a GM GM, or a team become a team because it's all about him. It's ok to prove me wrong by showing examples of who he made better. Crowder? No. George Hill? Regressed. Kyrie Irving? Led his new team to a better record. Love? Even. Hood? Sixth man to bench warmer. IT? Career ruined.

Should've just added Hill first and just stopped there, rest of the list is dumb.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

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He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

Playmaker make plays for other people and not score 30 a game, they also don't dominate possession of the ball and force other players to conform to their style of play.

His game is driving the basket, pulling in a double and get someone open in the perimeter... He's not organizing fast breaks or making those around him better.

who was gonna have the ball in their hands? did he have a number #2 this year? wtf are you guys talking about lmao. he did just fine with Kyrie and Wade, this year he had nobody. ya, he should've turned Clarckson into an all-star because MJ turned everybody into all stars (sarcasm...). these posts are so trash now

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

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He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

Playmaker make plays for other people and not score 30 a game, they also don't dominate possession of the ball and force other players to conform to their style of play.

His game is driving the basket, pulling in a double and get someone open in the perimeter... He's not organizing fast breaks or making those around him better.

who was gonna have the ball in their hands? did he have a number #2 this year? wtf are you guys talking about lmao. he did just fine with Kyrie and Wade, this year he had nobody. ya, he should've turned Clarckson into an all-star because MJ turned everybody into all stars (sarcasm...). these posts are so trash now

The lack of thought in your post is sad

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Nobody answered my question but mocked me surprisingly. Who has played better under Lebron? King Lebron who doesn't let a coach coach, a GM GM, or a team become a team because it's all about him. It's ok to prove me wrong by showing examples of who he made better. Crowder? No. George Hill? Regressed. Kyrie Irving? Led his new team to a better record. Love? Even. Hood? Sixth man to bench warmer. IT? Career ruined.

Originally posted by IT21:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Jiks:
Nobody answered my question but mocked me surprisingly. Who has played better under Lebron? King Lebron who doesn't let a coach coach, a GM GM, or a team become a team because it's all about him. It's ok to prove me wrong by showing examples of who he made better. Crowder? No. George Hill? Regressed. Kyrie Irving? Led his new team to a better record. Love? Even. Hood? Sixth man to bench warmer. IT? Career ruined.

I think we got a couple of candidates for who easymoney is, lol.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
Lol this is hysterical. Wow. What a ridiculous thing to say

Who has Lebron made better? Irving? Love? Korver? Smith? Hood? Hill? All have went in reverse since going to Cleveland or gotten better since leaving. Rodney Hood was averaging 15 a game a few months ago.

He's not a playmaker, he is a great selfish player like MJ except he's not the same level of winner. His style of play completely forces the offensive system to move through his penetration to the rim instead of allowing his teammates to get theirs. It's why a playmaker like Kyrie forced a trade to get away from him.

He's not a playmaker?

And then you called Kyrie a playmaker?

Some of you Warrior fans are too much lol.

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Playmaker make plays for other people and not score 30 a game, they also don't dominate possession of the ball and force other players to conform to their style of play.

His game is driving the basket, pulling in a double and get someone open in the perimeter... He's not organizing fast breaks or making those around him better.

who was gonna have the ball in their hands? did he have a number #2 this year? wtf are you guys talking about lmao. he did just fine with Kyrie and Wade, this year he had nobody. ya, he should've turned Clarckson into an all-star because MJ turned everybody into all stars (sarcasm...). these posts are so trash now

The lack of thought in your post is sad

wow good one, keep the trash posts up.