When all is said and done the NBA GOAT is..........

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:

MJ averaged 41 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block for an entire Finals series while shooting 51% overall and 40% from 3 while also playing lockdown defense. I'm not sure what Kerr means as far as doing something we've never seen.

Coach mind games.. cmon son

Kerr knows who the goat really is

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by IT21:
The haters' takes in here are so bad lmao. Ray Allen in a wheel chair "single handedly" won lebron a title because he made one clutch shot? Not like Lebron scored 16 pts in the 4th quarter of gane six to come back, then 37 in game 7 and averaged 30 10 and 7 for the series.

With the same logic Steve Kerr single handedly won jordan his sixth ring too

Not sure why you guys are soooo amazingly touchy and feely about this. You babies act like it's set in stone when is a very subjective conversation. I'm sorry to call you babies but you kind of are being babies. It's a matter of opinion not a life altering experience.

the opinions are really dumb though. i've seen people say from Bron chocked in OT to he's gotten carried by guys JR Smith, Thompson, and Allen, to he's not a play maker and doesn't make others better around him. i guess it's an opinion, but they are beyond dumb, the reason why i stopped replying to a lot of them...

i know of a lot of them who are talking just started watching basketball 3 years ago (because u wont find them in any playoff thread pre '14 if you search) but still, when you say dumb s**t like that expect people to call you out, it's not being a cry baby just stating how dumb some sound. (not talking about you here)

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

the opinions are really dumb though. i've seen people say from Bron chocked in OT to he's gotten carried by guys JR Smith, Thompson, and Allen, to he's not a play maker and doesn't make others better around him. i guess it's an opinion, but they are beyond dumb, the reason why i stopped replying to a lot of them...

i know of a lot of them who are talking just started watching basketball 3 years ago (because u wont find them in any playoff thread pre '14 if you search) but still, when you say dumb s**t like that expect people to call you out, it's not being a cry baby just stating how dumb some sound. (not talking about you here)

Well answer me this. If Ray Allen doesn't hit the 3 at the end of game 6, Spurs win right? That one play "single handedly" won LBJ a ring. It's not stupid it's common sense. Thats not me saying LBJ is the only player who's had help in winning a chip.

And still only one person has attempted to answer my question about who he's made better. ESPN just wrote an article asking the same question. So I'm not sure how it's a completely stupid question. It's a very valid question imo, nothing stupid about it.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23684417/kevin-pelton-weekly-mailbag-does-lebron-james-make-teammates-better


I honestly ask the same "how old are these guys" because as a Jazz fan I still hurt to this day about what Jordan did to us. Twice.

still MJ

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:

MJ averaged 41 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 1 block for an entire Finals series while shooting 51% overall and 40% from 3 while also playing lockdown defense. I'm not sure what Kerr means as far as doing something we've never seen.

well in fairness, MJ had a lot better weapons around him to help free him up or help get numbers. Lebron doesnt have that. Probably what he is eluding to. And every NBA analyst has been discussing the lack of talent compared to GS and even the other teams Lebron took out this year.

But people get offended when someone thinks Lebron is good so everyone keep hating.

The "hide posts" feature is the real goat

Lol, like I said feels. I really don't understand why this is such a touchy subject. Even if people make stupid arguments it's not a big deal lol.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

I stopped replying to most of them, especially jcs, he makes Skip Bayless look like he's sane.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Not sure why you guys are soooo amazingly touchy and feely about this. You babies act like it's set in stone when is a very subjective conversation. I'm sorry to call you babies but you kind of are being babies. It's a matter of opinion not a life altering experience.

Attack posts not posters. Let's all try to keep it civil please.

Originally posted by IT21:
The "hide posts" feature is the real goat

it is incredibly useful

Curry

Originally posted by Jiks:

Well answer me this. If Ray Allen doesn't hit the 3 at the end of game 6, Spurs win right? That one play "single handedly" won LBJ a ring. It's not stupid it's common sense. Thats not me saying LBJ is the only player who's had help in winning a chip.

One play does not truly win you a ring. It took many plays to get into the position where one play can win you THAT game. And many plays that had you win a host of previous playoff games to get to that point, and a host of regular season games to get you into the playoffs.

IMHO games are not truly won or lost on just one single play. Just my 2 cents...

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Well answer me this. If Ray Allen doesn't hit the 3 at the end of game 6, Spurs win right? That one play "single handedly" won LBJ a ring. It's not stupid it's common sense. Thats not me saying LBJ is the only player who's had help in winning a chip.

One play does not truly win you a ring. It took many plays to get into the position where one play can win you THAT game. And many plays that had you win a host of previous playoff games to get to that point, and a host of regular season games to get you into the playoffs.

IMHO games are not truly won or lost on just one single play. Just my 2 cents...

I know I won't change you mind but this play still haunts Jazz fans to this day.


Just like The Catch, one play can define an entire season.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Well answer me this. If Ray Allen doesn't hit the 3 at the end of game 6, Spurs win right? That one play "single handedly" won LBJ a ring. It's not stupid it's common sense. Thats not me saying LBJ is the only player who's had help in winning a chip.

One play does not truly win you a ring. It took many plays to get into the position where one play can win you THAT game. And many plays that had you win a host of previous playoff games to get to that point, and a host of regular season games to get you into the playoffs.

IMHO games are not truly won or lost on just one single play. Just my 2 cents...

I know I won't change you mind but this play still haunts Jazz fans to this day.


Just like The Catch, one play can define an entire season.

I agree that one play can define a season and or even a game, and one play can decide a season or a game but as I mentioned already, for me a season is not won or lost on just one play.

I also know not everyone is going to agree with that. It comes down to a matter of ones own opinion.

Also please do not post clips that kick yourself in the nads. You have probably relived that more times than you have needed to.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
the opinions are really dumb though. i've seen people say from Bron chocked in OT to he's gotten carried by guys JR Smith, Thompson, and Allen, to he's not a play maker and doesn't make others better around him. i guess it's an opinion, but they are beyond dumb, the reason why i stopped replying to a lot of them...

i know of a lot of them who are talking just started watching basketball 3 years ago (because u wont find them in any playoff thread pre '14 if you search) but still, when you say dumb s**t like that expect people to call you out, it's not being a cry baby just stating how dumb some sound. (not talking about you here)

Well answer me this. If Ray Allen doesn't hit the 3 at the end of game 6, Spurs win right? That one play "single handedly" won LBJ a ring. It's not stupid it's common sense. Thats not me saying LBJ is the only player who's had help in winning a chip.

And still only one person has attempted to answer my question about who he's made better. ESPN just wrote an article asking the same question. So I'm not sure how it's a completely stupid question. It's a very valid question imo, nothing stupid about it.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23684417/kevin-pelton-weekly-mailbag-does-lebron-james-make-teammates-better

I honestly ask the same "how old are these guys" because as a Jazz fan I still hurt to this day about what Jordan did to us. Twice.

oh...you are part of that crowd too, great. well, this is the last time i will respond to this nonsense.

if you want to say that Allen won Bron a title, then you have to say that guys like Kerr/Paxson won MJ a titles, Fisher/Horry won Kobe/Shaq titles, Bowen won Duncan titles.

but here's the difference...without MJ, without Kobe, without Duncan, none of those players would be in a position to make a game winner. there would've been another guy who made that shot, those players aren't the reason why they are winning titles. also, it's a team game, of course others will make some plays too. people like you act like MJ made every single shot and every single buzzer beater

and if you want to go down that route with espn gas bags writing dumb articles, i'll show espn gas bags who wrote articles who agree with what i say, but i hope that's not what sways your opinion. either way, i'm done with this discussion.

^If you do not want to give any credence to the article, fine. But Jiks has asked multiple times for examples of players LeBron has made better, and I was the only one who responded.

You dont need to post links of articles that support your opinion. You just need to give it. Because you havent yet, nor has anyone else.

If the idea that LeBron makes everyone better, you or anyone else should have no problem listing a plethora of examples.