**OFFICIAL 2018 WORLD CUP Thread***

Cristiano Ronaldo should have stayed in Portugal.

Originally posted by DaBum:

That wasn't the point you were making. No back tracking now.

I'm not backtracking, you guys just don't understand due to over sensitive

You guys are more interested in insulting me and debating words like local or if the best player I referenced was only the best in 2015, instead of understanding my points

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by DaBum:

That wasn't the point you were making. No back tracking now.

I'm not backtracking, you guys just don't understand due to over sensitive

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

You guys are more interested in insulting me and debating words like local or if the best player I referenced was only the best in 2015, instead of understanding my points

Local in Netherlands is not England. You then argued that point for two pages. That's not nitpicking. That's you talking out your ass. I'm moving on.

Originally posted by DaBum:

Local in Netherlands is not England. You then argued that point for two pages. That's not nitpicking. That's you talking out your ass. I'm moving on.

Because you guys don't care what I meant by "local" lol

If US had soccer fans that were as passionate and devoted as Dutch fans, mls would be a big league, and us soccer would be better. Earth shattering revelations


Instead you guys obsess about minor stuff in my posts and ignore the larger message of what I'm saying. That US soccer isn't great because it's not a high priority in US compared to other sports

Edit:

This all started because I defended English soccer fans, and that if US had so many passionate fans mls would be bigger and we'd have a better national team

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

French President celebrating at the game

Haha nice

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by DaBum:
Local in Netherlands is not England. You then argued that point for two pages. That's not nitpicking. That's you talking out your ass. I'm moving on.

Because you guys don't care what I meant by "local" lol

If US had soccer fans that were as passionate and devoted as Dutch fans, mls would be a big league, and us soccer would be better. Earth shattering revelations

Instead you guys obsess about minor stuff in my posts and ignore the larger message of what I'm saying. That US soccer isn't great because it's not a high priority in US compared to other sports

Edit:

This all started because I defended English soccer fans, and that if US had so many passionate fans mls would be bigger and we'd have a better national team

I'll address your point more directly. The MLS being a popular league will do little to US player development compared to other countries because of how the league is structured.

Other countries run football clubs, not professional teams. football clubs begin at a very early age and develop a brand of soccer in the youth ranks. The best players graduate up to the senior team. Football clubs are intended to create talent and not necessarily to make a profit. The football club is intertwined with the culture of the city, so fandom is different than how you and I support the 9ers.

By contrast, MLS teams are for profit organizations. They dont care to produce talent (only recently have they started to build out youth teams), and if they did it would need to be ROI positive. MLS owners dont care to change the system, because theyre the reason for the current US system and the chase of profit. If the interest in the MLS grows, it will grow the profit but will do nothing to developing talent.

Originally posted by Arminini:

I'll address your point more directly. The MLS being a popular league will do little to US player development compared to other countries because of how the league is structured.

Other countries run football clubs, not professional teams. football clubs begin at a very early age and develop a brand of soccer in the youth ranks. The best players graduate up to the senior team. Football clubs are intended to create talent and not necessarily to make a profit. The football club is intertwined with the culture of the city, so fandom is different than how you and I support the 9ers.

By contrast, MLS teams are for profit organizations. They dont care to produce talent (only recently have they started to build out youth teams), and if they did it would need to be ROI positive. MLS owners dont care to change the system, because theyre the reason for the current US system and the chase of profit. If the interest in the MLS grows, it will grow the profit but will do nothing to developing talent.

Great post

Originally posted by Arminini:
I'll address your point more directly. The MLS being a popular league will do little to US player development compared to other countries because of how the league is structured.

Other countries run football clubs, not professional teams. football clubs begin at a very early age and develop a brand of soccer in the youth ranks. The best players graduate up to the senior team. Football clubs are intended to create talent and not necessarily to make a profit. The football club is intertwined with the culture of the city, so fandom is different than how you and I support the 9ers.

By contrast, MLS teams are for profit organizations. They dont care to produce talent (only recently have they started to build out youth teams), and if they did it would need to be ROI positive. MLS owners dont care to change the system, because theyre the reason for the current US system and the chase of profit. If the interest in the MLS grows, it will grow the profit but will do nothing to developing talent.

Exaclty right. Also lets not pretend the NFL and NBA were Giants in their first 20 years of existence. Hell Magic first finals win was on tape delay.

Originally posted by Arminini:

I'll address your point more directly. The MLS being a popular league will do little to US player development compared to other countries because of how the league is structured.

Other countries run football clubs, not professional teams. football clubs begin at a very early age and develop a brand of soccer in the youth ranks. The best players graduate up to the senior team. Football clubs are intended to create talent and not necessarily to make a profit. The football club is intertwined with the culture of the city, so fandom is different than how you and I support the 9ers.

By contrast, MLS teams are for profit organizations. They dont care to produce talent (only recently have they started to build out youth teams), and if they did it would need to be ROI positive. MLS owners dont care to change the system, because theyre the reason for the current US system and the chase of profit. If the interest in the MLS grows, it will grow the profit but will do nothing to developing talent.

Thank you for doing this and explaining SunDevil the very basics of European club football.

This is why one shouldn't be discussing something they have zero knowledge of.

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Because you guys don't care what I meant by "local" lol

If US had soccer fans that were as passionate and devoted as Dutch fans, mls would be a big league, and us soccer would be better. Earth shattering revelations


Instead you guys obsess about minor stuff in my posts and ignore the larger message of what I'm saying. That US soccer isn't great because it's not a high priority in US compared to other sports

Edit:

This all started because I defended English soccer fans, and that if US had so many passionate fans mls would be bigger and we'd have a better national team

We know exactly what you meant by local. Stop it.

And, I'm not a MLS fan. My ridiculing of English soccer and it's fans have nothing to do with MLS or America soccer. I told you this in my very first post on the topic. You'd have understood if you watched European soccer.

But, for some reason - you had to get into something you don't know anything about. Just weird.

Originally posted by Arminini:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by DaBum:
Local in Netherlands is not England. You then argued that point for two pages. That's not nitpicking. That's you talking out your ass. I'm moving on.

Because you guys don't care what I meant by "local" lol

If US had soccer fans that were as passionate and devoted as Dutch fans, mls would be a big league, and us soccer would be better. Earth shattering revelations

Instead you guys obsess about minor stuff in my posts and ignore the larger message of what I'm saying. That US soccer isn't great because it's not a high priority in US compared to other sports

Edit:

This all started because I defended English soccer fans, and that if US had so many passionate fans mls would be bigger and we'd have a better national team

I'll address your point more directly. The MLS being a popular league will do little to US player development compared to other countries because of how the league is structured.

Other countries run football clubs, not professional teams. football clubs begin at a very early age and develop a brand of soccer in the youth ranks. The best players graduate up to the senior team. Football clubs are intended to create talent and not necessarily to make a profit. The football club is intertwined with the culture of the city, so fandom is different than how you and I support the 9ers.

By contrast, MLS teams are for profit organizations. They dont care to produce talent (only recently have they started to build out youth teams), and if they did it would need to be ROI positive. MLS owners dont care to change the system, because theyre the reason for the current US system and the chase of profit. If the interest in the MLS grows, it will grow the profit but will do nothing to developing talent.

Nailed it, finally someone who understand the European football vs MLS structure. Great post.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Thank you for doing this and explaining SunDevil the very basics of European club football.

This is why one shouldn't be discussing something they have zero knowledge of.

Can't resist from being insulting. SAD

Originally posted by 190836:

Nailed it, finally someone who understand the European football vs MLS structure. Great post.

It's rerresfing to speak with someone that can handle a conversation in a respectful manner