Back to Back NBA Champion Golden State Warriors 2018-19

It won't surprise me if they cut McCaw once buyouts start happening after the trade deadline. He isn't going to help them.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by JustinMT:
McCaw is now a Raptor so getting cut by the Cavs worked out for him, at least for now.

Did it? He may not even play much there.

The Warriors have filed a complaing with the NBA office about how this was handled, and the NBA has approved the complaint and will start an investigation.

Basically the Cavs signed him to a 2 year, NON-guaranteed contract and then cut him 3 days later. The Warriors got totally screwed in this scenario, as it is abundantly clear that the Cavs never had any intention of having him on the team.

This may not seem like a big deal to people because they dont think McCaw is any good. But I guarantee you a rule will be changed because of it, which at the very least will not allow a team to sign a Restricted Free Agent to a non-guaranteed contract.

I just saw that. How did the Cavs benefit?

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by JustinMT:
McCaw is now a Raptor so getting cut by the Cavs worked out for him, at least for now.

Did it? He may not even play much there.

The Warriors have filed a complaing with the NBA office about how this was handled, and the NBA has approved the complaint and will start an investigation.

Basically the Cavs signed him to a 2 year, NON-guaranteed contract and then cut him 3 days later. The Warriors got totally screwed in this scenario, as it is abundantly clear that the Cavs never had any intention of having him on the team.

This may not seem like a big deal to people because they dont think McCaw is any good. But I guarantee you a rule will be changed because of it, which at the very least will not allow a team to sign a Restricted Free Agent to a non-guaranteed contract.

I just saw that. How did the Cavs benefit?

It isnt so much that the Cavs benefited, unless there was some under the table deal made by the McCaws to have the Cavs help him get out of being restricted. I also think this will be very difficult to prove. However, the point remains that the Warriors basically lost their RFA because a team was able to offer him a bigger money contract that they were able to completely get out of by making it non-guaranteed. That is a loophole that basically made us lose our rights to him.

More importantly than losing Mccaw (which appears to be not a big deal at all), is that it sets a dangerous precedent about RFAs. Lets take Jordan Bell for example. He will be a RFA soon. Lets say a team offers him a non-guaranteed 3 year, $30M contract that we either have to match or lose him. He signs that offer sheet with them. No chance we would match that. Then 3 days later, said team cuts Jordan Bell and he becomes a unrestricted free agent able to sign with whoever he wants. That would be completely unfair to the Warriors, and is essentially a way to get out of the restrictions. That is what happened with Pat.

Hope that helps.

Good summary Steve and it is a loophole that the league needs to and will fix. I dont give a damn about Patrick McCaw and hope the league forces the Cavs to give the Dubs a 2nd rd pick.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm tired of durant. I want the old warriors back with a better bench. I hate this iso ball with Durant. The warriors sometimes just stand around doing nothing. Thays not warriors basketball. Draymond was right. They dont need him.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But that's my point. They had barnes. They had bogut, they had ezeli, they had speights, they had Barbosa, it was beautiful. They had to sacrifice because of durant. Now they have cook, jones.

Thought you would enjoy this. LOL

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by JustinMT:
McCaw is now a Raptor so getting cut by the Cavs worked out for him, at least for now.

Did it? He may not even play much there.

The Warriors have filed a complaing with the NBA office about how this was handled, and the NBA has approved the complaint and will start an investigation.

Basically the Cavs signed him to a 2 year, NON-guaranteed contract and then cut him 3 days later. The Warriors got totally screwed in this scenario, as it is abundantly clear that the Cavs never had any intention of having him on the team.

This may not seem like a big deal to people because they dont think McCaw is any good. But I guarantee you a rule will be changed because of it, which at the very least will not allow a team to sign a Restricted Free Agent to a non-guaranteed contract.

I just saw that. How did the Cavs benefit?

It isnt so much that the Cavs benefited, unless there was some under the table deal made by the McCaws to have the Cavs help him get out of being restricted. I also think this will be very difficult to prove. However, the point remains that the Warriors basically lost their RFA because a team was able to offer him a bigger money contract that they were able to completely get out of by making it non-guaranteed. That is a loophole that basically made us lose our rights to him.

More importantly than losing Mccaw (which appears to be not a big deal at all), is that it sets a dangerous precedent about RFAs. Lets take Jordan Bell for example. He will be a RFA soon. Lets say a team offers him a non-guaranteed 3 year, $30M contract that we either have to match or lose him. He signs that offer sheet with them. No chance we would match that. Then 3 days later, said team cuts Jordan Bell and he becomes a unrestricted free agent able to sign with whoever he wants. That would be completely unfair to the Warriors, and is essentially a way to get out of the restrictions. That is what happened with Pat.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the info. I get how we got screwed and Mccaw benefited.

But I'm wondering why the Cavs would go out on a limb for some fool like Mccaw.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Thanks for the info. I get how we got screwed and Mccaw benefited.

But I'm wondering why the Cavs would go out on a limb for some fool like Mccaw.

See that is the interesting part. Because Mccaw was there for 3 games. It just makes the entire thing seem really fishy, and that there was some sort of behind closed doors deal here. Because the Cavs basically paid Mccaw over $300k to be there for, what, a week? In my mind, there is no way that they brought him in because they truly believed he would help the team, and then decided a few days later that he wouldnt be able to help the team. Logic says something else was going on. However, I think that would be very tough to prove.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Thought you would enjoy this. LOL

You are a better person than me, John. I had no interest in even replying to that nonsense.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Thanks for the info. I get how we got screwed and Mccaw benefited.

But I'm wondering why the Cavs would go out on a limb for some fool like Mccaw.

See that is the interesting part. Because Mccaw was there for 3 games. It just makes the entire thing seem really fishy, and that there was some sort of behind closed doors deal here. Because the Cavs basically paid Mccaw over $300k to be there for, what, a week? In my mind, there is no way that they brought him in because they truly believed he would help the team, and then decided a few days later that he wouldnt be able to help the team. Logic says something else was going on. However, I think that would be very tough to prove.

I agree but the question is what on earth would Cleveland have to gain by paying McCaw 300K and then release him. Was it simply because they felt it was a reasonable amount of money to get a close up look at him and make a decision without having to guarantee the rest of the season or longer? Just dont get it.

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by JustinMT:
McCaw is now a Raptor so getting cut by the Cavs worked out for him, at least for now.

Did it? He may not even play much there.

But if we play them in finals...could help them a bit

McCaw is a stiff, so I have no problems with him being gone. It would be sweet if the Cavs got some kind of penalty though. I may have to venture to that cesspool of a forum they have if that happens. The saline would be flowing in rivers.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm tired of durant. I want the old warriors back with a better bench. I hate this iso ball with Durant. The warriors sometimes just stand around doing nothing. Thays not warriors basketball. Draymond was right. They dont need him.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

But that's my point. They had barnes. They had bogut, they had ezeli, they had speights, they had Barbosa, it was beautiful. They had to sacrifice because of durant. Now they have cook, jones.

Thought you would enjoy this. LOL

Imagine wanting 4 guys out of the league and an overpriced, underachiever in Harrison Barnes over the best scorer of all time, in his prime.

Coming soon.

We need Boogie to play.

Originally posted by IT21:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm tired of durant. I want the old warriors back with a better bench. I hate this iso ball with Durant. The warriors sometimes just stand around doing nothing. Thays not warriors basketball. Draymond was right. They dont need him.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

But that's my point. They had barnes. They had bogut, they had ezeli, they had speights, they had Barbosa, it was beautiful. They had to sacrifice because of durant. Now they have cook, jones.

Thought you would enjoy this. LOL

Imagine wanting 4 guys out of the league and an overpriced, underachiever in Harrison Barnes over the best scorer of all time, in his prime.

Wanting the bench back is dumb, but I do want our style back. People think we're trying to cater to KD right now with the amount of time he's spent on ball, but I think it has more to do with Currys injury/ being worn down from 4 straight finals. Steph hasn't been working hard off ball either (which hurts our offense) so they seem to be saving him.

I hope we get back to more of us as we get closer to the playoffs, but it's hard. Dray has become lost on offense as KD has slowly taken over many of his duties. He's a liability on offense at this point. Klank seems to have longer cold streaks than hot nowadays. We just don't maximize every player like we used to. It's not KDs fault, I just think if he stays we need make some roster changes. I do have more love for Klay and Dray though, so that would suck.

We're still a great team, but it's based on being more talented now. Steph KD may be the best 2 players to ever play together, so this team obviously all time great, but I still love what Steph/Kerr created. Stephs unlimited range/all time best off ball movement is what made the Warriors and maximized players like Draymond, and Klay. Now KD has taken advantage and maximized himself in Stephs offense, but in return has lowered Klays value and made Dray a black hole on offense.

Hard to believe that the Warriors are going for a threepeat and have the 2nd best record in the West given all these terrible problems, Curry not working hard enough, and KD lowering the value of Draymond and Klay