San Francisco Giants 2019 Off-season Thread

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

I don't want Wotus but would take him over Muelens.

I have zero desire for Muelens. Other than being a nice guy, I don't think Muelens has done a single note worthy thing in regards to hitting. Most of the strides players took was advertised as self or something they learned from occasionally meeting Barry Bonds and talking hitting. I have said this before. And the giants have been one of the worst hitting teams for a decade. (Yes I know he doesn't do it anymore)

And I wasn't that impressed with Wotus when he spot filled in or talks.

The new wave of managers are picked for their ability to manage personalities, not their strategic ability. The FO is going to set the strategy. Farhan also said he wanted experience.

Ausmas?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Ausmas?

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Ausmas?

Who else?

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

only to have it end by Dusty Bakers absolute s**t managing of the pitching staff which costs the giants the world series and maybe more

Yeah, I still remember how pissed/sad I was. I remember feeling depressed at school for like the next week lol. Me and my PE teacher at the time were listening to the NLDS against Atlanta on the radio during class, so we shared the sadness after they lost

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
only to have it end by Dusty Bakers absolute s**t managing of the pitching staff which costs the giants the world series and maybe more

still makes me rage. cost Bonds a 'ship.

I think I'm in the minority here who likes Ibanez for the mgr spot

Originally posted by wailers15:
I think I'm in the minority here who likes Ibanez for the mgr spot

Ibanez, the former player, Ibanez?

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
only to have it end by Dusty Bakers absolute s**t managing of the pitching staff which costs the giants the world series and maybe more

still makes me rage. cost Bonds a 'ship.

That stupid f**king rally monkey

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by skeetskeet:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Even if they got rid of triples alley, how would that dramatically boost our offense? How many times did you see a Giants player hit a ball that landed out in triples alley on the fly? Rarely.

The air density of right on the bay, and the wind patterns in the stadium are the two biggest reasons Oracle is a tough place to hit. The dimensions aren't nearly the problem people say they are. Triples alley was just created to balance out the insanely short corner down the RF line. It will still be tough to hit them out to right even if triples alley is gone.

LOL while I'm not at all disagreeing with you, I went to baseball reference to see the 2002 teams numbers and I literally lost s**t when I saw Bonds OBP haha.

I forgot Reggie Sanders hit 20 HRs

I feel like almost everyone on that team hit 20+ that season. I think that was the year I truly became a diehard and watched every single game. I would plan my day around making sure I could watch the Giants games. Good thing I was only in high school I guess

We had 198 homeruns as a team in 2002, and had 235 the year before. That should just prove to everyone that the ballpark dimensions are not the issue.

I stand by my statement that I made earlier in the season that Garce laughed at. We lose a handful of homeruns a year because of triples alley.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by wailers15:

I think I'm in the minority here who likes Ibanez for the mgr spot

Ibanez, the former player, Ibanez?

Yes sir that's the guy. He was known during his playing time for being a very smart player. Very knowledgeable. Bilingual as well. Been working in the Dodgers organization as of late.
Dude Ibanez was a good player too.

Hey look at Rocco in Minnesota? He was able to fit right in and took a very bad team and turned it around. I think Ibanez would be solid.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by wailers15:
I think I'm in the minority here who likes Ibanez for the mgr spot

Ibanez, the former player, Ibanez?

Yes sir that's the guy. He was known during his playing time for being a very smart player. Very knowledgeable. Bilingual as well. Been working in the Dodgers organization as of late.
Dude Ibanez was a good player too.

Hey look at Rocco in Minnesota? He was able to fit right in and took a very bad team and turned it around. I think Ibanez would be solid.

I guess he'd do ok - I just want someone with a little more experience.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by skeetskeet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Even if they got rid of triples alley, how would that dramatically boost our offense? How many times did you see a Giants player hit a ball that landed out in triples alley on the fly? Rarely.

The air density of right on the bay, and the wind patterns in the stadium are the two biggest reasons Oracle is a tough place to hit. The dimensions aren't nearly the problem people say they are. Triples alley was just created to balance out the insanely short corner down the RF line. It will still be tough to hit them out to right even if triples alley is gone.

LOL while I'm not at all disagreeing with you, I went to baseball reference to see the 2002 teams numbers and I literally lost s**t when I saw Bonds OBP haha.

I forgot Reggie Sanders hit 20 HRs

I feel like almost everyone on that team hit 20+ that season. I think that was the year I truly became a diehard and watched every single game. I would plan my day around making sure I could watch the Giants games. Good thing I was only in high school I guess

We had 198 homeruns as a team in 2002, and had 235 the year before. That should just prove to everyone that the ballpark dimensions are not the issue.

I stand by my statement that I made earlier in the season that Garce laughed at. We lose a handful of homeruns a year because of triples alley.

2001 and 2002 was also the peak of the PED era, and Bonds accounted for 119 of those 433 HR.

Besides Bonds, we haven't had a player hit even 28 HR in 17 years, and its not because we didn't have the talent to do it.

Like I said, the physical dimensions of the park arent the issue. Its that baseballs dont travel well in cold, damp air. Especially with wind patterns that wrap around the RF side of the stadium and blow in towards the field. I bet if you looked at the HR spray charts for Oracle, the HR to the shortest part of the Willie Mays wall are still pretty sparse, despite being such a close distance to the plate.

Lefties know they have to get every bit of one to leave the yard, and they better pull the ball, which is a mental road block for your confidence. The only way to remedy that is to paint a HR line a few feet below the tin roofing so that you don't actually have to clear that wall for a HR.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by skeetskeet:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Even if they got rid of triples alley, how would that dramatically boost our offense? How many times did you see a Giants player hit a ball that landed out in triples alley on the fly? Rarely.

The air density of right on the bay, and the wind patterns in the stadium are the two biggest reasons Oracle is a tough place to hit. The dimensions aren't nearly the problem people say they are. Triples alley was just created to balance out the insanely short corner down the RF line. It will still be tough to hit them out to right even if triples alley is gone.

LOL while I'm not at all disagreeing with you, I went to baseball reference to see the 2002 teams numbers and I literally lost s**t when I saw Bonds OBP haha.

I forgot Reggie Sanders hit 20 HRs

I feel like almost everyone on that team hit 20+ that season. I think that was the year I truly became a diehard and watched every single game. I would plan my day around making sure I could watch the Giants games. Good thing I was only in high school I guess

We had 198 homeruns as a team in 2002, and had 235 the year before. That should just prove to everyone that the ballpark dimensions are not the issue.

I stand by my statement that I made earlier in the season that Garce laughed at. We lose a handful of homeruns a year because of triples alley.

2001 and 2002 was also the peak of the PED era, and Bonds accounted for 119 of those 433 HR.

Besides Bonds, we haven't had a player hit even 28 HR in 17 years, and its not because we didn't have the talent to do it.

Like I said, the physical dimensions of the park arent the issue. Its that baseballs dont travel well in cold, damp air. Especially with wind patterns that wrap around the RF side of the stadium and blow in towards the field. I bet if you looked at the HR spray charts for Oracle, the HR to the shortest part of the Willie Mays wall are still pretty sparse, despite being such a close distance to the plate.

Lefties know they have to get every bit of one to leave the yard, and they better pull the ball, which is a mental road block for your confidence. The only way to remedy that is to paint a HR line a few feet below the tin roofing so that you don't actually have to clear that wall for a HR.

Well, as you and I both know, this juiced ball era > steroid era in terms of homeruns (not even debatable). So forgive me if I dont buy any of this response.

But the one thing that stood out to me is your 28 homerun hitter in the last 17 years. Its not that we didnt have the talent? Ok who were the hitters we had that had the talent to hit 28 jacks in that time period?

Go duffy