2019-20 WORLD CHAMPION Los Angeles Lakers Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

Sooo anywayyyyyy


Is this period the next couple weeks going to be nothing but rumors? You can't even talk to a FA or have anything verbally finalized til end of June right

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

I think they could. Yes it depends a little on the team they put around them. You need some kind of supporting cast as others said. I also agree. I don't know what supporting players they would put around them. But Lebron, Davis, and Kawhi would have to take a few million pay cut to fill out the rest of the roster. They did it in Miami. These are different guys with a different team. So who knows if they do it or not? But if they did free up $10 - $12 million you could fill out some kind of roster. Also the Lakers could go slightly over for a slight hit on the luxury tax. So maybe you are looking at $17 million or something to fill out the roster. You add one shooter like JJ Reddick and do the best you can with remaining minimum guys like Caruso and others. I'm just saying it's possible. Where there is a will there is a way.

I really want to hear from Rob about this trade and what he thought would happen with the salary cap implications. Did they not understand what would happen if they made this trade before the end of July? Or they did but their plan was to trade Mo + Bonga?

Looks like they FO didnt think this through to well.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Payton Malone I am not even going to dignify that with a response.

Well no s**t they had nobody to score when they went down. The fact is when they were healthy they were the favorites to win the ship. You wouldn't take that? You don't make signings based off of the chances they tear their achilles during the NBA finals.

Just for some perspective - Klay Thompson 29 years old coming off a torn ACL - will get maxed.
KEvin Durant - 30 years old coming off an achilles - will get maxed

Anthony Davis - 26 years old - no major injuries, in prime
Kawhi Leonard - 27 years old - no major injuries, in prime, already won 2 titles and 2 finals MVPs....you don't want him under any circumstance?

Fill out the roster with me and you, I don't care. We'd still be the favs

Change this to often injured for both as that is more accurate. And Leonard missed a year. If he was really injured and not trying to force a trade then that would qualify as fairly major, no?

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Change this to often injured for both as that is more accurate. And Leonard missed a year. If he was really injured and not trying to force a trade then that would qualify as fairly major, no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c2do0c/anthony_davis_injury_history/

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

I think they could. Yes it depends a little on the team they put around them. You need some kind of supporting cast as others said. I also agree. I don't know what supporting players they would put around them. But Lebron, Davis, and Kawhi would have to take a few million pay cut to fill out the rest of the roster. They did it in Miami. These are different guys with a different team. So who knows if they do it or not? But if they did free up $10 - $12 million you could fill out some kind of roster. Also the Lakers could go slightly over for a slight hit on the luxury tax. So maybe you are looking at $17 million or something to fill out the roster. You add one shooter like JJ Reddick and do the best you can with remaining minimum guys like Caruso and others. I'm just saying it's possible. Where there is a will there is a way.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

This is the legendary Lakers franchise. Not some wannabe Warriors franchise.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Change this to often injured for both as that is more accurate. And Leonard missed a year. If he was really injured and not trying to force a trade then that would qualify as fairly major, no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c2do0c/anthony_davis_injury_history/

Davis hasn't had any major injuries. And was healthy last 3 seasons - played 75 games in each 2016 and 2017 seasons and only reason he didn't play 70+ games last season was Pels were sitting him out after his trade request.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

I really want to hear from Rob about this trade and what he thought would happen with the salary cap implications. Did they not understand what would happen if they made this trade before the end of July? Or they did but their plan was to trade Mo + Bonga?

Looks like they FO didnt think this through to well.

We will know soon. That'll be extremely incompetent. I knew about this and posted about these implications in my previous posts. That's why it's hard for me to believe that Pelinka wouldn't know. This is not all that complicated and I'll be shocked if he didn't know this.

I think it's more likely that he wanted the trade to be pushed back to July 30th but was too complicated bc Pels are looking to trade the pick.

I think this trade will likely expand once Pels find someone to take the 4th pick and Lakers will get to max slot.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Change this to often injured for both as that is more accurate. And Leonard missed a year. If he was really injured and not trying to force a trade then that would qualify as fairly major, no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c2do0c/anthony_davis_injury_history/

Davis hasn't had any major injuries. And was healthy last 3 seasons - played 75 games in each 2016 and 2017 seasons and only reason he didn't play 70+ games last season was Pels were sitting him out after his trade request.

What about his first 4 seasons? He's missed over 100 games in his career so far out of 574 total, including last years self inflicted lost games. That is like 18%?

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Change this to often injured for both as that is more accurate. And Leonard missed a year. If he was really injured and not trying to force a trade then that would qualify as fairly major, no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c2do0c/anthony_davis_injury_history/

Davis hasn't had any major injuries. And was healthy last 3 seasons - played 75 games in each 2016 and 2017 seasons and only reason he didn't play 70+ games last season was Pels were sitting him out after his trade request.

What about his first 4 seasons? He's missed over 100 games in his career so far out of 574 total, including last years self inflicted lost games. That is like 18%?

I feel the games missed in first 4 seasons aren't very relevant when none of the games were due to major injuries. AD had a different body coming out of college than he has now. It seems like he missed games mostly because he got banged up playing in the post when he was young and not very strong.

Plus, Being the lone star on the team means you're the focal point of more possessions - on both ends. You have to take fewer possessions off. Playing with others stars - there will be more possessions for AD where he doesn't have to do anything on offense.

Don't really see a big deal with the games he missed last year as it was mostly Pels keeping him out than him being hurt.

In the end, injuries can happen to anyone...as we saw with both Lebron and Klay going down this past season. Don't think AD is injury prone at all. With NBA going smaller and smaller and less physical - AD isn't really taxing his body as much as first did. Probably the reason why AD missed very few games due to injury last 3 seasons.

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

This is the legendary Lakers franchise. Not some wannabe Warriors franchise.

lol

6 or 7 guaranteed rings turned into 2 so I don't expect LeBron to ever rack up rings like it's a stroll in the park. He's had a big 3 his entire prime and has been beatable. 2 out of 3 maybe. Leonard, Davis, Lebron are too talented to completely whiff even with a poor supporting cast.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They would win with that 3 easily as long as they stay healthy. Your depth and bench don't matter if you have 3 top 5 players in the league. I see a 3 peat if they get that Big 3. Your top 3 would carry you. 4 through 12 wouldn't matter much if you had that. Indeed I would not pass on that. Plus the Lakers are the type of organization who would likely go a little above the cap and pay at least some luxury tax. They do what they have to in order to win. They would fill out the roster with something.

Would be willing to wager anything you want that this team wouldnt 3peat.

I would bet against any team to 3 peat because, as Dubs fans are painfully aware, injuries can derail a title run.

I dont think Kawhi is coming to the Lakers for 2 reasons. 1) they wont have the max cap room available and 2) he wont want to play as a 3rd fiddle behind AD and James. He will either go to the Clippers or stay in Toronto. My money would be on the Clips.