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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Brookfield's finest is on a mission. Dame can't be stopped. Dudes range is half court and he finishes at the cup or gets fouled every time. Put some respeck on his name

Bubble NBA is the s**t.

One of the best in the league and didn't turn his back on his team and fans to chase a ring. Got my respect.

Hell yes... I follow a couple folks from Warriors twitter and they get a bit insecure about Dame. Is he a better scorer than Steph right now?

Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

Statistics dont support this opinion in the slightest bit.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

I feel the same way. Steph is a better shooter but dame is a better scorer... dame needs the rock where Steph can play off ball and foster more of a team game. I would choose Steph as my PG, but Steph has never had to carry a roster like Dame. I was looking forward to seeing Steph shoulder the burden before he got hurt last year

This is the roster that Steph was playing with when he swept Dame in the WCF:



This is the roster that Dame was playing with when he got swept:



The difference in the series was Steph Curry dominated and Damian Lillard underperformed. It wasnt that Steph had a loaded team or that Dame was carrying garbage. The proof is above man.

The hype is off the charts right now (like it is for a short period of time every single season). I love Dame, but he is no Steph.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Aug 12, 2020 at 11:45 AM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Brookfield's finest is on a mission. Dame can't be stopped. Dudes range is half court and he finishes at the cup or gets fouled every time. Put some respeck on his name

Bubble NBA is the s**t.

One of the best in the league and didn't turn his back on his team and fans to chase a ring. Got my respect.

Hell yes... I follow a couple folks from Warriors twitter and they get a bit insecure about Dame. Is he a better scorer than Steph right now?

Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

Statistics dont support this opinion in the slightest bit.

Curry has a high % around the rim because he rarely attacks the rim, he chooses his spots when to do it. Curry can be a bit crafty around the paint, but he's not gonna dominate you attacking the rim and drawing the fouls. He can barely dunk lol. It's like trying to argue that DJ is better on the inside than Embiid bc he has a higher FG % in the paint.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Aug 12, 2020 at 11:46 AM ]
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Brookfield's finest is on a mission. Dame can't be stopped. Dudes range is half court and he finishes at the cup or gets fouled every time. Put some respeck on his name

Bubble NBA is the s**t.

One of the best in the league and didn't turn his back on his team and fans to chase a ring. Got my respect.

Hell yes... I follow a couple folks from Warriors twitter and they get a bit insecure about Dame. Is he a better scorer than Steph right now?

Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

Statistics dont support this opinion in the slightest bit.

Curry has a high % around the rim because he rarely attacks the rim, he chooses his spots when to do it. Curry can be a bit crafty around the paint, but he's not gonna dominate you attacking the rim and drawing the fouls. He can barely dunk lol. It's like trying to argue that DJ is better on the inside than Embiid bc he has a higher FG % in the paint.

I totally disagree with this line of reasoning. You are basically saying the guy who does it more frequently but does it at a substantially lower level is better than the guy who does it more efficiently because his attempts are lower.

Would you argue that Lonzo Ball is a better three point shooter than Seth Curry? Using your logic, Lonzo is better.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Brookfield's finest is on a mission. Dame can't be stopped. Dudes range is half court and he finishes at the cup or gets fouled every time. Put some respeck on his name

Bubble NBA is the s**t.

One of the best in the league and didn't turn his back on his team and fans to chase a ring. Got my respect.

Hell yes... I follow a couple folks from Warriors twitter and they get a bit insecure about Dame. Is he a better scorer than Steph right now?

Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

Statistics dont support this opinion in the slightest bit.

Curry has a high % around the rim because he rarely attacks the rim, he chooses his spots when to do it. Curry can be a bit crafty around the paint, but he's not gonna dominate you attacking the rim and drawing the fouls. He can barely dunk lol. It's like trying to argue that DJ is better on the inside than Embiid bc he has a higher FG % in the paint.

I totally disagree with this line of reasoning. You are basically saying the guy who does it more frequently but does it at a substantially lower level is better than the guy who does it more efficiently because his attempts are lower.

Would you argue that Lonzo Ball is a better three point shooter than Seth Curry? Using your logic, Lonzo is better.

Shooting 3s and attacking the paint are two different skills. And Lonzo is not statistically better either, not sure what point you are making there.

But Steve Nash had a great percentage around the rim and outside shooting, do you consider him better than Kobe as a scorer, who was worse % wise?

Just stop lol. Steph is not better than Lillard around the rim. I'm not saying there's a huge difference, but its enough to make it pretty obvious
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Aug 12, 2020 at 12:31 PM ]
NBA keeping the Instagram hoes out of the bubble

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29645758/memo-nba-players-prove-longstanding-relationship-non-family-members-enter-bubble
[ Edited by TheSixthRing on Aug 12, 2020 at 12:30 PM ]
Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
NBA kicking the Instagram hoes out of the bubble

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29645758/memo-nba-players-prove-longstanding-relationship-non-family-members-enter-bubble

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Brookfield's finest is on a mission. Dame can't be stopped. Dudes range is half court and he finishes at the cup or gets fouled every time. Put some respeck on his name

Bubble NBA is the s**t.

One of the best in the league and didn't turn his back on his team and fans to chase a ring. Got my respect.

Hell yes... I follow a couple folks from Warriors twitter and they get a bit insecure about Dame. Is he a better scorer than Steph right now?

Good question. Ill say yes, not by a lot though. Hes a bit better than Curry at finishing around the rim. But I still rather have Curry, he has a better shot selection and plays team ball really well.

Statistics dont support this opinion in the slightest bit.

Curry has a high % around the rim because he rarely attacks the rim, he chooses his spots when to do it. Curry can be a bit crafty around the paint, but he's not gonna dominate you attacking the rim and drawing the fouls. He can barely dunk lol. It's like trying to argue that DJ is better on the inside than Embiid bc he has a higher FG % in the paint.

I totally disagree with this line of reasoning. You are basically saying the guy who does it more frequently but does it at a substantially lower level is better than the guy who does it more efficiently because his attempts are lower.

Would you argue that Lonzo Ball is a better three point shooter than Seth Curry? Using your logic, Lonzo is better.

Shooting 3s and attacking the paint are two different skills. And Lonzo is not statistically better either, not sure what point you are making there.

But Steve Nash had a great percentage around the rim and outside shooting, do you consider him better than Kobe as a scorer, who was worse % wise?

Just stop lol. Steph is not better than Lillard around the rim. I'm not saying there's a huge difference, but its enough to make it pretty obvious

Lolwut? Cmon man I didnt think I would have to spell out the comparison for you to understand haha. NO, Lonzo does not have a better 3pt% than Seth Curry. But Lillard doesn't have a better finishing percentage than Steph does either. You were the one who's logic stated that the lower shooting percentage can be explained by the difference in aggressiveness. Why wouldn't that apply to my Lonzo analogy too? You are all over the place.

And you can tell me to stop all you want, but you have provided nothing to support your argument other than Dame attacks the rim more often (which really shakes down to about 2 more drives a game?

I literally have zero clue why you brought up Nash and Kobe and who was the better scorer. I was simply responding to your claim that Lillard is better finishing at the rim, which statistics show to be categorically false. Scoring has nothing to do with what you and I are discussing.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Aug 12, 2020 at 1:47 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
This is the roster that Steph was playing with when he swept Dame in the WCF:



This is the roster that Dame was playing with when he got swept:



The difference in the series was Steph Curry dominated and Damian Lillard underperformed. It wasnt that Steph had a loaded team or that Dame was carrying garbage. The proof is above man.

The hype is off the charts right now (like it is for a short period of time every single season). I love Dame, but he is no Steph.

A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go
Originally posted by sacniner:
A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go

Not insecure at all. Dame isnt on the same level as Curry regardless of how its trying to be spun.

What I was trying to show was the fact that if you look at the supporting cast and how they did in the series, the Blazers actually had the advantage. The reason the result of the series wasnt a Blazers victory rather than a lopsided Warriors sweep was basically Curry going nuts and Lillard underperforming.
Originally posted by sacniner:
A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go

It's not so much Dub fans, SWH has a history with being an ultra homer. Lol at thinking Curry is better around the rim than Dame.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by sacniner:
A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go

Not insecure at all. Dame isnt on the same level as Curry regardless of how its trying to be spun.

What I was trying to show was the fact that if you look at the supporting cast and how they did in the series, the Blazers actually had the advantage. The reason the result of the series wasnt a Blazers victory rather than a lopsided Warriors sweep was basically Curry going nuts and Lillard underperforming.
Yes, since it is a documented fact that Meyers Leonard and Enes Kanter are defensive stalwarts. Busted up Rodney Hood and a Seth Curry who was not playing at the same level he is now in Dallas. lol That Warriors team was far better than Portland.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by sacniner:
A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go

It's not so much Dub fans, SWH has a history with being an ultra homer. Lol at thinking Curry is better around the rim than Dame.

Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Aug 12, 2020 at 4:51 PM ]
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by sacniner:
A hall of famer next two him, an all star in Iggy, and the best defensive player in the NBA that year? What are you trying to show here?

IMO, Dub fans shouldn't get insecure about Dame. Just let it go

Not insecure at all. Dame isnt on the same level as Curry regardless of how its trying to be spun.

What I was trying to show was the fact that if you look at the supporting cast and how they did in the series, the Blazers actually had the advantage. The reason the result of the series wasnt a Blazers victory rather than a lopsided Warriors sweep was basically Curry going nuts and Lillard underperforming.
Yes, since it is a documented fact that Meyers Leonard and Enes Kanter are defensive stalwarts. Busted up Rodney Hood and a Seth Curry who was not playing at the same level he is now in Dallas. lol That Warriors team was far better than Portland.

Well they didnt perform better. I listed the stats above.

The Warriors team at that time was far better than Portland because of Steph Curry.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Aug 12, 2020 at 3:35 PM ]
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Take the Warriors homerism to the Warriors thread lol

Steph penetrates a lot but he rarely tries to finish because he has neither the vertical nor the strength to complete it. He knows and passes out. He takes the shots when help doesn't come so it is an open shot.
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