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Originally posted by DaBum:
Take the Warriors homerism to the Warriors thread lol

Steph penetrates a lot but he rarely tries to finish because he has neither the vertical nor the strength to complete it. He knows and passes out. He takes the shots when help doesn't come so it is an open shot.

How is it homerism to say that the guy who finishes roughly 10% higher at the rim is a better finisher than the guy who finishes roughly 10% lower?

Are you really saying 2 additional drives a game makes that big of a difference here? I am seriously asking. Because you can take the names completely out of the picture and you will never get me to say the guy who makes 10% less of his shots is better at finishing.

Saying Curry only attempts wide open layups is absolutely absurd.

Steph is the best shooter in NBA history

Dame is better finishing at the rim - he's stronger and more aggressive


Overall, Steph is better but Steph has also had a better supporting cast. This year was his chance to change that perception (that he doesn't need to carry a team ever) but he got hurt

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Not insecure at all. Dame isnt on the same level as Curry regardless of how its trying to be spun.

What I was trying to show was the fact that if you look at the supporting cast and how they did in the series, the Blazers actually had the advantage. The reason the result of the series wasnt a Blazers victory rather than a lopsided Warriors sweep was basically Curry going nuts and Lillard underperforming.

Dame underperformed that series, and Steph is the best shooter ever - still a fact: Steph's teams have historically been much better

IMO, Steph is on the short list of tier 1 superstars. Lillard is on a more crowded tier 2.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

IMO, Steph is on the short list of tier 1 superstars. Lillard is on a more crowded tier 2.

Agreed.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
IMO, Steph is on the short list of tier 1 superstars. Lillard is on a more crowded tier 2.

Agreed.

100%

Steph in 2014-2106 was legitimately in conversation with Lebron James as the best player in the game. I love Lillard, but he may not even be a top 10 player. Steph is still a top 5 player in the league.

Giannis
Lebron
KD
Curry
Kawhi
Harden
AD
Jokic
And for 9, 10, 11, and 12 you can go with Lillard, Luka, PG or Westbrook in any order.

And, I think Portland has put a lot of talent around him for last several years. Let's not forget - Blazers got swept by Rondo, Jrue, AD, and bunch of unknowns.

Again, Im a fan of Lillard and I respect his game. I think if Lakers don't take them seriously - theyll be in trouble. But, just bc Steph didn't play this year - let's not disrespect him by comparing Lillard and Steph. They're not on same tier as Stoney pointed out.

Western Conf playoff matchup is pretty much set:

Lakers v. Blazers (only one still not final but it pretty much is)
Clippers v. Mavs
Nuggets v. Jazz
Rockets v. Thunder (this is gonna be fun!!!)

Originally posted by 4ML:

Western Conf playoff matchup is pretty much set:

Lakers v. Blazers (only one still not final but it pretty much is)
Clippers v. Mavs
Nuggets v. Jazz
Rockets v. Thunder (this is gonna be fun!!!)

Probably a good thing no fans for that Rockets/Thunder. Russ would end up starting in Malice at the Palace 2.0

All fun series imo.

WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Eh Utah isn't gonna last long. They don't match up well with Denver and not having Bogdanovic is a huge loss.

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Eh Utah isn't gonna last long. They don't match up well with Denver and not having Bogdanovic is a huge loss.

To be fair, Denver has the only chance of beating the Lakers/Clippers...and it wouldn't even be particularly surprising imo. So thats not a huge slight on Jazz.

I can't believe how deep they are even with their injuries. That team is going to be a b***h to deal with for a long ass time especially when they can move back into Denver arena.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Eh Utah isn't gonna last long. They don't match up well with Denver and not having Bogdanovic is a huge loss.

To be fair, Denver has the only chance of beating the Lakers/Clippers...and it wouldn't even be particularly surprising imo. So thats not a huge slight on Jazz.

I can't believe how deep they are even with their injuries. That team is going to be a b***h to deal with for a long ass time especially when they can move back into Denver arena.

It doesn't matter who the Jazz would have had to face. They would have been trounced by any of the other teams in my opinion. Probably could take Dallas to 6 or 7 at their current state but even Portland would manhandle them imo.