***2019-2020 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD***

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Eh Utah isn't gonna last long. They don't match up well with Denver and not having Bogdanovic is a huge loss.

To be fair, Denver has the only chance of beating the Lakers/Clippers...and it wouldn't even be particularly surprising imo. So thats not a huge slight on Jazz.

I can't believe how deep they are even with their injuries. That team is going to be a b***h to deal with for a long ass time especially when they can move back into Denver arena.

It doesn't matter who the Jazz would have had to face. They would have been trounced by any of the other teams in my opinion. Probably could take Dallas to 6 or 7 at their current state but even Portland would manhandle them imo.

What the hell happened there? Because even before the whole covid issue with Rudy and Mitchell, they never played to their full potential. I easily had them as the 3rd best team in West.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Western Conf playoff matchup is pretty much set:

Lakers v. Blazers (only one still not final but it pretty much is)
Clippers v. Mavs
Nuggets v. Jazz
Rockets v. Thunder (this is gonna be fun!!!)

I wouldn't count out the Suns just yet. They need to beat a Mavs team today that has nothing to play for except to be a spoiler, and the Grizzlies need to lose to a Bucks team minus Giannis, but if both happen they are in the play in at the 9 spot (and if Portland improbably loses to the Nets, the Suns get the 8 spot). Suns are unbeaten for a reason. They are playing great team defense and move the ball as well as any team in the league. And if a play breaks down? They got that Booker guy who's pretty good at creating his own shot.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Western Conf playoff matchup is pretty much set:

Lakers v. Blazers (only one still not final but it pretty much is)
Clippers v. Mavs
Nuggets v. Jazz
Rockets v. Thunder (this is gonna be fun!!!)

I wouldn't count out the Suns just yet. They need to beat a Mavs team today that has nothing to play for except to be a spoiler, and the Grizzlies need to lose to a Bucks team minus Giannis, but if both happen they are in the play in at the 9 spot (and if Portland improbably loses to the Nets, the Suns get the 8 spot). Suns are unbeaten for a reason. They are playing great team defense and move the ball as well as any team in the league. And if a play breaks down? They got that Booker guy who's pretty good at creating his own shot.

I saw this forgot to ask you!! Suns drink their MONSTAR secret stuff or what? Would be great to see booker in the dance..

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Do you have stats on this? I cant find them, so I have to believe you are making things up sir.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
WC is so strong. Last thing I want is a pissed of Dame.

Eh Utah isn't gonna last long. They don't match up well with Denver and not having Bogdanovic is a huge loss.

To be fair, Denver has the only chance of beating the Lakers/Clippers...and it wouldn't even be particularly surprising imo. So thats not a huge slight on Jazz.

I can't believe how deep they are even with their injuries. That team is going to be a b***h to deal with for a long ass time especially when they can move back into Denver arena.

It doesn't matter who the Jazz would have had to face. They would have been trounced by any of the other teams in my opinion. Probably could take Dallas to 6 or 7 at their current state but even Portland would manhandle them imo.

What the hell happened there? Because even before the whole covid issue with Rudy and Mitchell, they never played to their full potential. I easily had them as the 3rd best team in West.

The Jazz just cant seem to get over the hump. I think they are a solid team, but probably should be better than they are. I dont think Mitchell is as good as some do either.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Do you have stats on this? I cant find them, so I have to believe you are making things up sir.

KB248mamba shall not be named in any basketball quarrels circles of discussion or short stories until 2021 at the earliest k thanks

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Do you have stats on this? I cant find them, so I have to believe you are making things up sir.

KB248mamba shall not be named in any basketball quarrels circles of discussion or short stories until 2021 at the earliest k thanks

Quoted the wrong person then my friend.

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
KB248mamba shall not be named in any basketball quarrels circles of discussion or short stories until 2021 at the earliest k thanks

On Booker's right forearm, a tattoo reads Be Legendary. It's what Bryant wrote on a pair of sneakers he gave to Booker in 2016. Booker had it inked on weeks after Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash in January. It was his first tattoo. It will be his last. He is reminded of Bryant when he looks at his arm. He thinks of him when he scrolls through his phone. The last text he sent Bryant came the day of the crash, when word spread that Bryant was on the Southern California chopper.

He asked if Bryant was OK.

The message never went through.

Kobe

- Nekro

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Do you have stats on this? I cant find them, so I have to believe you are making things up sir.

KB248mamba shall not be named in any basketball quarrels circles of discussion or short stories until 2021 at the earliest k thanks

Quoted the wrong person then my friend.

Its a general warning to all!

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:
KB248mamba shall not be named in any basketball quarrels circles of discussion or short stories until 2021 at the earliest k thanks

On Booker's right forearm, a tattoo reads Be Legendary. It's what Bryant wrote on a pair of sneakers he gave to Booker in 2016. Booker had it inked on weeks after Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash in January. It was his first tattoo. It will be his last. He is reminded of Bryant when he looks at his arm. He thinks of him when he scrolls through his phone. The last text he sent Bryant came the day of the crash, when word spread that Bryant was on the Southern California chopper.

He asked if Bryant was OK.

The message never went through.

Kobe

- Nekro

Damnn thats a gnarley story though.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Couldn't be more open to be proven wrong bro. But so far, the only thing you have been able to offer this debate is "Steph barely attacks the rim," which in reality translates to Steph driving to the basket roughly 2 less times a game than Dame.....and somehow that makes up for and trumps the nearly 10% discrepancy in percentages.

Its also funny you describe me as a having a history with being an ultra homer, when most people claim that I am always negative on this site.

You're using FG % on layups as your metric to prove Steph is better than Dame when it comes to driving and scoring in the paint?

He is lol. By that logic, Steve Nash >>> Kobe since he had a higher %

Do you have stats on this? I cant find them, so I have to believe you are making things up sir.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nashst01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

scroll down to where it says shooting, and you can see FG % from 0-3 feet 3-8 feet. basically in the paint.

Nash is statistically better than Kobe in both categories. So obviously Nash is a better finisher than Kobe. Not only that, but Nash has a higher % basically everywhere, including 3s. Nash is just a much better scorer than Kobe. And he's actually just 1% shy of being a better 3 point shooter than Curry as well.

*thats sarcasm btw.

Lakers broadcast team just said that in american sports, only the browns, mariners, and marlins have a longer playoff drought than the sacramento kings.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nashst01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

scroll down to where it says shooting, and you can see FG % from 0-3 feet 3-8 feet. basically in the paint.

Nash is statistically better than Kobe in both categories. So obviously Nash is a better finisher than Kobe. Not only that, but Nash has a higher % basically everywhere, including 3s. Nash is just a much better scorer than Kobe. And he's actually just 1% shy of being a better 3 point shooter than Curry as well.

*thats sarcasm btw.

Thank you for the links. I know that was sarcasm sir. All good.

For me, there are major differences between you drawing conclusions (albeit sarcastic conclusions) from your comparison and me drawing conclusions from my comparison.

First off, the difference in percentages between the two players you are comparing is less that half of a percent. That is far different than an 8% difference in the comparison between Curry/Dame. 0.4% is basically a meaningless difference. 8% is not.

And secondly, KB and Nash have completely different styles of play. Kobe played above the rim. Nash barely left the ground. Dame and Steph dont play markedly different in the same sense that KB and Nash did. Neither play above the rim. While they have slight differences in style, they have very similar styles of playing the game. With that being said, an 8% difference is a really large number. Huge.

And I asked the homie sac this yesterday and I will ask you. Since you completely have discredited percentage at the rim, what exactly do you think I should be looking at instead? If there is a better stat, I would be happy to be educated on it.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Lakers broadcast team just said that in american sports, only the browns, mariners, and marlins have a longer playoff drought than the sacramento kings.

The Kings have become what the Clippers and Warriors used to be. Lightweight feel bad for them. But at the same time, I dont haha.