Golden State Warriors Talk

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
Kawhi Leonard is a basketball god. I wonder how many chips he'd have by now if he were healthier throughout his career. I feel like he'd be considered a top 5 all time player.

+ Show all quotes Top 20 perhaps. Top 5? He'll no. Not in my opinion anyway. But clearly a great 2 way player when healthy

Yup, a lot of hype for him, but he isn't a top 5 player ever. Maybe if he stayed healthy.

Maybe a top 20 forward out of the recent top 75.

Well we are talking about hypothetical accomplishments that we have no idea if they would happen or not.

Fact is, as good as he is, he is 6x All NBA player who has never sniffed an MVP. That is not the resume of a top 5 player of all time.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Everyone has a different top 10 and it's certainly difficult to compare eras and positions. But I could never put Kawhi above: ( not ranked after top 3)
MJ
Lebron
Kareem
Kobe
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Steph
Duncan
Shaq

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Everyone has a different top 10 and it's certainly difficult to compare eras and positions. But I could never put Kawhi above: ( not ranked after top 3)
MJ
Lebron
Kareem
Kobe
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Steph
Duncan
Shaq

I couldn't either given what's transpired. I'm just saying that if he'd stayed healthy, he might have more hardware to show for it and we'd be having a different conversation. It's a moot point because he's always getting injured at the worst possible time. And top 5 was clearly a reach.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Everyone has a different top 10 and it's certainly difficult to compare eras and positions. But I could never put Kawhi above: ( not ranked after top 3)
MJ
Lebron
Kareem
Kobe
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Steph
Duncan
Shaq

I couldn't either given what's transpired. I'm just saying that if he'd stayed healthy, he might have more hardware to show for it and we'd be having a different conversation. It's a moot point because he's always getting injured at the worst possible time. And top 5 was clearly a reach.

I couldnt put him over a single player that has ever won MVP, other than Derrick Rose. So even if he racked up more All NBAs, more All Stars, etc. he would still be way out of the top ___ conversation for me.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Everyone has a different top 10 and it's certainly difficult to compare eras and positions. But I could never put Kawhi above: ( not ranked after top 3)
MJ
Lebron
Kareem
Kobe
Bird
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Steph
Duncan
Shaq

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I couldn't either given what's transpired. I'm just saying that if he'd stayed healthy, he might have more hardware to show for it and we'd be having a different conversation. It's a moot point because he's always getting injured at the worst possible time. And top 5 was clearly a reach.

I couldnt put him over a single player that has ever won MVP, other than Derrick Rose. So even if he racked up more All NBAs, more All Stars, etc. he would still be way out of the top ___ conversation for me.

I would put him ahead of
Embiid
Westbrook (close but Kawhi better 2 way player)
Rose. (Obvious)

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I would put him ahead of
Embiid
Westbrook (close but Kawhi better 2 way player)
Rose. (Obvious)

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Oh my, Mr. Moody.0