Golden State Warriors Talk

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by DickWedgie:
Fire Bob Myers and hire pd24 and his wonderful grammar!

Not going to waste my time and you can't even spell.

Have fun trying to figure out if the Warriors are going to win the play in tournament or watching the lottery balls. Steph is being wasted in his prime years because the team didn't trade the 2nd pick and other assets for another star player. Warriors are back to what they have always been.

What superstar would they have traded for that would have made them instant title contenders? They would have had to have included Wiggins in any deal and he has been great this year. After Curry he has easily been the 2nd best player on the team.

Once Klay went down this team had no chance to contend for a championship. They are setting themselves up now to contend in the next 3-4 years with Curry, Klay, and Draymond. If they can get a couple of great draft picks and finally get a season of health they can be right in the hunt.

James Wiseman will be a very good player in this league for many years. Did you expect him to come in and immediately be an All Star and a defensive stopper? If you did you just dont get it. He is a 19 year old kid who played 3 college games. He will continue to improve but will have games where he struggles. AS EXPECTED.

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:

That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

Lol Wiseman has played 17 games, can we give him more time before we hate on him, oh and he's 19, the NBA is a grown man league, don't worry he has everything going for him, he's going to be a star in time, and defensively Dray won't let him fail in the future

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:

That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:

That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:
That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Maybe there is a Charlotte Hornets thread where you can go in and talk about how great LaMelo is. I do find it interesting that you have been a WZ member since 2009 yet didnt post in here when the Warriors were the best team in the NBA and in the Finals 5 straight years. Are you a Dubs fan or just want to come in to troll?

Oh.. you didnt answer my question. Who should the Warriors have traded the 2nd pick for to win another title? I will wait for your answer.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:

That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Maybe there is a Charlotte Hornets thread where you can go in and talk about how great LaMelo is. I do find it interesting that you have been a WZ member since 2009 yet didnt post in here when the Warriors were the best team in the NBA and in the Finals 5 straight years. Are you a Dubs fan or just want to come in to troll?

Oh.. you didnt answer my question. Who should the Warriors have traded the 2nd pick for to win another title? I will wait for your answer.

Harden. Wiggins, Wiseman, some more 1sts.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:
That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Maybe there is a Charlotte Hornets thread where you can go in and talk about how great LaMelo is. I do find it interesting that you have been a WZ member since 2009 yet didnt post in here when the Warriors were the best team in the NBA and in the Finals 5 straight years. Are you a Dubs fan or just want to come in to troll?

Oh.. you didnt answer my question. Who should the Warriors have traded the 2nd pick for to win another title? I will wait for your answer.

Harden. Wiggins, Wiseman, some more 1sts.

Wiggins, Wiseman, and more 1sts for Harden. LMAO. Right. Lets throw the future away for a shooting guard who plays no defense and hasnt won anything in his career. Nevermind that the Dubs have the Splash Brothers and need front court players.

Thank God you arent the GM.

Wiggins, Wiseman, Poole, 2 1st rd picks next year for Beal enough ?

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Wiggins, Wiseman, Poole, 2 1st rd picks next year for Beal enough ?

Seriously? I think you underrate how good Wiggins is now, how good Wiseman can become, and how much a team needs draft capital to remain relevant. They would be fun to watch no doubt but they would probably be last in the league in defense.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:

That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Maybe there is a Charlotte Hornets thread where you can go in and talk about how great LaMelo is. I do find it interesting that you have been a WZ member since 2009 yet didnt post in here when the Warriors were the best team in the NBA and in the Finals 5 straight years. Are you a Dubs fan or just want to come in to troll?

Oh.. you didnt answer my question. Who should the Warriors have traded the 2nd pick for to win another title? I will wait for your answer.

Harden. Wiggins, Wiseman, some more 1sts.

Wiggins, Wiseman, and more 1sts for Harden. LMAO. Right. Lets throw the future away for a shooting guard who plays no defense and hasnt won anything in his career. Nevermind that the Dubs have the Splash Brothers and need front court players.

Thank God you arent the GM.

I'm not a Warriors fan, but you are acting like Klay is coming back from some minor stuff.

I like just think they shouldn't have wasted a year a Steph. Health for any player isn't guaranteed. They don't know how Klay will be after an ACL and Achilles, especially on defense.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:

Originally posted by pd24:
That's just false. He has been great on defense. Wiseman is the one lost on defense.

Wouldn't say that. Sure, he's been getting steals, but it's been mentioned how he does too much ball watching and gets lost, similar to Wiseman. Also, Ball just got called out by his HC for the amount of turnovers he has.

Just cuz you're a fan of Lamelo, it's unfair to disguise what he's been struggling in and then come out guns blazing on Wiseman.

Just go of his defensive stats and advanced defensive stays he is good. He has a positive defensive box plus minus on a bad team. That is telling. He is a better defender than Lonzo and Lonzo is also a good defender.

He is not a better defender lol. Lonzo was a good defender as soon as he came into the league. Lamelo is a poor defender right now.

What metrics point to him being a poor defender? Or is it an opinion?

Maybe there is a Charlotte Hornets thread where you can go in and talk about how great LaMelo is. I do find it interesting that you have been a WZ member since 2009 yet didnt post in here when the Warriors were the best team in the NBA and in the Finals 5 straight years. Are you a Dubs fan or just want to come in to troll?

Oh.. you didnt answer my question. Who should the Warriors have traded the 2nd pick for to win another title? I will wait for your answer.

Harden. Wiggins, Wiseman, some more 1sts.

Wiggins, Wiseman, and more 1sts for Harden. LMAO. Right. Lets throw the future away for a shooting guard who plays no defense and hasnt won anything in his career. Nevermind that the Dubs have the Splash Brothers and need front court players.

Thank God you arent the GM.

I'm not a Warriors fan, but you are acting like Klay is coming back from some minor stuff.

I like just think they shouldn't have wasted a year a Steph. Health for any player isn't guaranteed. They don't know how Klay will be after an ACL and Achilles, especially on defense.

Durant has come back as good as ever from his Achilles tear. There is no reason to think Klay wont as well. He has always kept himself in great shape and works extremely hard. But regardless, getting James Harden wasnt going to get them a title especially given that Wiggins would be gone. And I promise you that Klay's defense even after his surgery will be better than Hardens.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Wiggins, Wiseman, Poole, 2 1st rd picks next year for Beal enough ?

Seriously? I think you underrate how good Wiggins is now, how good Wiseman can become, and how much a team needs draft capital to remain relevant. They would be fun to watch no doubt but they would probably be last in the league in defense.

I thought it was a joke.

Wishful thinking, but I'd like to see Wiggins as a finished product, Wiseman with a full NBA season and off-season under his belt, and have them play alongside a healed up Klay with Steph and Draymond.

If we don't keep Oubre, then a solid veteran playmaker would be a nice add and we can keep our draft picks to build further into the future.

Originally posted by DickWedgie:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Wiggins, Wiseman, Poole, 2 1st rd picks next year for Beal enough ?

Seriously? I think you underrate how good Wiggins is now, how good Wiseman can become, and how much a team needs draft capital to remain relevant. They would be fun to watch no doubt but they would probably be last in the league in defense.

I thought it was a joke.

Wishful thinking, but I'd like to see Wiggins as a finished product, Wiseman with a full NBA season and off-season under his belt, and have them play alongside a healed up Klay with Steph and Draymond.

If we don't keep Oubre, then a solid veteran playmaker would be a nice add and we can keep our draft picks to build further into the future.

Perhaps it was a joke and it went right over my head. lol

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Perhaps it was a joke and it went right over my head. lol

You can never tell lol. I already lost brain cells trying to understand pd24's point of view.