Golden State Warriors Talk

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
With the way Chriss has been playing since getting rid of WCS, I am very comfortable with a starting lineup of:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Marquese Chriss

If Chriss can continue to show that this is who he is becoming, he would be fine as our starting center moving forward.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

wasnt Chriss like a top 10 pick??

Kings former lottery

Kings are so trash when it comes to drafting

These things do go in cycles. A little less than 20 years ago the Kings put together one of the all time great western conference teams. A team that should have won at least one championship but was robbed by a ref who was throwing the games to pay off mob debt. And while the kings were doing that the dubs had one if the worst draft runs in basketball and missed the playoffs 15 years in a row.

Things can change fast in this league. Let's enjoy these good times while they're here.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

With the way Chriss has been playing since getting rid of WCS, I am very comfortable with a starting lineup of:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Marquese Chriss

If Chriss can continue to show that this is who he is becoming, he would be fine as our starting center moving forward.

That's gonna be fun to watch

Originally posted by bayarealuv:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
With the way Chriss has been playing since getting rid of WCS, I am very comfortable with a starting lineup of:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Marquese Chriss

If Chriss can continue to show that this is who he is becoming, he would be fine as our starting center moving forward.

That's gonna be fun to watch

Yeah, that is going to be fun - it's going to be even funner, if we draft Wiseman or Ball.

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Giannis Antetokounmpo

i like the 2021 line up better

Originally posted by boast:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Giannis Antetokounmpo

i like the 2021 line up better

I'd cream my pants if that was our lineup.

Originally posted by boast:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Giannis Antetokounmpo

i like the 2021 line up better

Lol. Good luck with that. The Dubs would have to move Klay and either Wiggins or Draymond to free up enough cap space to sign the Freak.

Pipe dream given the huge money Klay, Steph, Wiggins, and Draymond make

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by boast:

Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Giannis Antetokounmpo

i like the 2021 line up better

Lol. Good luck with that. The Dubs would have to move Klay and either Wiggins or Draymond to free up enough cap space to sign the Freak.

Pipe dream given the huge money Klay, Steph, Wiggins, and Draymond make

Big time pipe dream - we've got a better chance at getting a top 3 pick and going that route, then we are in signing Giannis.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I have hope that Wiggins can develop with our team. He is still young. But right now, he isnt the player DLo is, and thats my issue.

That's fair to say when comparing their ability in general, but what matters most is how they fit the team/system. We don't know how it'll eventually work out but on paper it makes sense having Wiggins over DLo.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I think Marcus Thompson summed up my thoughts nicely, especially the bolded:

"First off, this deal would have been there in the offseason," Thompson explained. "There's no line of people trying to get Andrew Wiggins, he would've been there. I think everybody in the league agrees with that. Minnesota wanted D'Angelo Russell in July, they wanted D'Angelo Russell in February, I'm willing to bet they would've wanted him again in June. Because that's Karl-Anthony Towns' boy, and that's the one guy that will make him happy, and that's what they were trying to get. So this trade that happened now would've been there."

Assuming this trade would be available later also means you are betting that the main trade pieces stay healthy until the offseason, which isn't guaranteed. If DLo or Wiggins got injured, this deal may not have been there anymore. Obviously nobody can predict injuries so there's no right or wrong way to approach the strategy, but there's definitely a risk factor that can't be overlooked.

If DLo and Wiggins both fit into the long-term plans of their future teams then why not do the deal now? Both players will have the remainder of this season to get acclimated to their new teams. Neither team is going anywhere this season, why not get the future started now?

"(Myers) had to take a deal he normally wouldn't have taken, I think he would've waited. The worst part for me: Come June draft, the Finals have all been worked out, the teams that have flamed out have flamed out, the drama has started, the players are upset and want to move, and maybe a couple stars pop up on the radar being able to be traded. What's the Warriors package now? Is Wiggins going to do something in these last 30 games to make people say 'yeah we've gotta have him for $33 million a year?' I don't know that he's doing that."

Thompson claims that "maybe" a couple stars pop up on the trade block. Is this just a general assumption or are some star players actually projected to be moved this offseason? I don't doubt that blockbuster trades are a possibility, but I also wouldn't want the Warriors to hold onto DLo blindly waiting for a blockbuster to "maybe" pop up.

Luckily we'll have the benefit of hindsight in the offseason and we'll see if any star players do become available/get traded. If they do, we can see what was packaged for them. If they don't, it was a good move to trade DLo now rather than wait.

The bottom line according to Thompson is that Russell is the type of asset you could package for a star player. Wiggins, at this point, is not.

"I feel like they did just get a worse package to use on the market. If Ben Simmons becomes available and you've got Wiggins and a pick, I don't know if it's as attractive as Russell and a pick. Say what you want about Russell, he's got market value. He can handle the ball, he can shoot, he's a guard, everybody wants a scoring guard, he's clearly got more market value. Maybe he doesn't get the deal done but I think he's got a better shot of getting it done.

I may be wrong, but I don't feel like Wiggins was acquired to be a trade-piece. I think the Warriors see his potential on this team and gambled on his upside.

As for DLo, it seems Thompson might have overrated his market value. According to Zach Lowe of ESPN, DLo did not have much trade value outside of Minnesota. He claims the Warriors got 1 other offer and it was not close to Minnesota's deal.

"Basically it feels like they gave up on that star chasing front and were like let's build us another strength in numbers team."

Sounds good to me. Adding another star player to this team would obviously be awesome but it's not necessary to win. We already have a championship core and adding good role players to support Steph, Klay, and Draymond should be enough to get us back on top.

Strength in numbers!

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Wiggins looks as good as we could have hoped, given what we know about his career so far. The big question is, how consistent will this level be? I think his play so far has earned him the benefit of the doubt.

It's a small sample size but he looks great so far. He put up nice numbers in these first 3 games but stats aside, he already looks comfortable moving in this offense and he's hustling on both ends. I'm surprised how fast he was able to acclimate to this team. Hopefully he continues to build on what he's shown so far. Looks promising and I'm excited about his potential with this team.

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
Chriss seems to have had a breakthrough. It's almost like we got 2 new players in that trade.

He has definitely stepped it up lately. I think it's also a credit to Draymond too. He seems to elevate the level of play of the bigs playing next to him. He tends to find/put them in good positions to score with some beautiful alleys.

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
There are nice moments from guys like Poole and Paschal which is encouraging.

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
But you still can't expect wins when we've got guys like Pargo Tuscano-Anderson getting minutes.

Overall the last three games have given me hope.

Might sound weird but this whole season has given me hope. As you said, we can't expect wins with the roster we've had this year. Despite that, Kerr has these guys playing hard and the final score isn't a true indicator of how the games have been. There's been some pretty nice flashes throughout these games and the future looks bright. It's not reflected in the record, but Kerr is maximizing the talent (or lack thereof) on this team.

Hope we don't win too many more games. I want that top 3 pick and take Wiseman or Ball. It's been a long season - but, I hope it was not in vein.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Hope we don't win too many more games. I want that top 3 pick and take Wiseman or Ball. It's been a long season - but, I hope it was not in vein.

It's unfortunate that the lottery odds suck now Last season the Knicks were the only team in the bottom 6 to get a top 4 pick.

We should end up in the bottom 3 (giving us the best odds) but at that point it's still only 50/50 we're in the top 3. I agree though if we get in the top 3 I can live with it.

paschall with a light 23 points for team usa

Should have gotten mvp but i guess his points weren't sexy enough

Paschall got robbed.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Paschall got robbed.

Yeah, but the guy who won it - was dunking all over the place - that's what people want to see.